Thread Boeing 787

[kenadams]

Il Wall Street Journal annuncia che Boeing lancerà il 787-10 al Paris Air show con ordini da parte di Singapore Airlines (30 aerei, come già riferito dal vettore), United Airlines, IAG (che eserciterebbe 18 opzioni), e Air Lease Corporation.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323734304578543762260626432.html

In caso di conferma, è interessante che manchino due nomi (JAL e Lufthansa) che a lungo erano stati ritenuti candidati importanti per il 787-10.

 

[maclover]

In caso di conferma, è interessante che manchino due nomi (JAL e Lufthansa) che a lungo erano stati ritenuti candidati importanti per il 787-10.

Mi aggancio a questo thread andando leggermente OT, ma rimanendo in tema Boeing.

Leggevo oggi che, stando ad una dichiarazione del CEO Franz, LH stia già pianificando di dismettere i 748 entro i prossimi 10 anni.

Considerando che dovrebbe riceverne ancora 12 dei 19 ordinati e che normalmente un tipo di aereo sta in flotta almeno una 20ina di anni, sembra emergere come le idee sul come rinnovare la propria flotta di lungo raggio non siano ad oggi chiarissime in casa LH.

Tra l'altro, se davvero l'unico (o quasi) operatore di 748i pensa già di dismetterli nel breve/medio periodo, questo potrebbe significare la fine del progetto 747 in versione pax

 

[UM78]

Sperando che non converta i restanti ordini in F.

 

[Claudio19cc87]

Questo è il mio primo post, ho letto le regole e non parla di presentazioni quindi penso non serva, spero di non sbagliare...

Ho visitato dal vivo questo gioiello all'Alenia di Grottaglie circa un anno fa... Appena recupero il video (causa una formattazione sbagliata l'ho smarrito ma un amico ha una copia) ve lo mostro... Ho ripreso tutto, da cockpit, first class, economy e tutto il resto...

 

[falkux]

Questo è il mio primo post, ho letto le regole e non parla di presentazioni quindi penso non serva, spero di non sbagliare...

Ho visitato dal vivo questo gioiello all'Alenia di Grottaglie circa un anno fa... Appena recupero il video (causa una formattazione sbagliata l'ho smarrito ma un amico ha una copia) ve lo mostro... Ho ripreso tutto, da cockpit, first class, economy e tutto il resto...

Aspettiamo il video.
Intanto, benvenuto!

 

[dreamliner]

Questo è il mio primo post, ho letto le regole e non parla di presentazioni quindi penso non serva, spero di non sbagliare...

Ho visitato dal vivo questo gioiello all'Alenia di Grottaglie circa un anno fa... Appena recupero il video (causa una formattazione sbagliata l'ho smarrito ma un amico ha una copia) ve lo mostro... Ho ripreso tutto, da cockpit, first class, economy e tutto il resto...

Benvenuto anche da parte mia. Non vedo l'ora di vedere le foto al interno del Dreamliner che porto come "nick". Chi sa se mai volero con questo meraviglioso aereo.

 

[Jighen]

Chi sa se mai volero con questo meraviglioso aereo.

Scusa, ma non hai già volato? Cel l'hai raccontato in uno dei tuoi mitici TR

 

[enrico]

Leggevo oggi che, stando ad una dichiarazione del CEO Franz, LH stia già pianificando di dismettere i 748 entro i prossimi 10 di 748i

Dismetterli nel senso di convertirli in cargo?

 

[maclover]

Dismetterli nel senso di convertirli in cargo?

Dismetterli nel senso di dismetterli
Nel prossimo decennio l'intenzione di LH è di non avere in flotta alcun quadrimotore.

 

[explo]

Dismetterli nel senso di dismetterli
Nel prossimo decennio l'intenzione di LH è di non avere in flotta alcun quadrimotore.

Scusa mac... e i 380?

 

[maclover]

Scusa mac... e i 380?

Da BusinessTraveller dove ho letto la notizia

With the exception of the A380 superjumbo, rising fuel costs have made four-engined planes redundant.

According to industry publication Aviation Week, Lufthansa intends to dispose of its brand new fleet of B747-8s in the 2020s, well before they were originally scheduled for retirement.

Normally, a B747 would remain in service with a major carrier for between 20 and 30 years, yet Lufthansa's fleet of B747-8s (it has 19 of these craft on order) are still being delivered factory-fresh from Boeing.

Speaking at IATA's AGM in Cape Town, Lufthansa CEO Christoph Franz indicated that his airline would be ordering twin-engined, but more fuel-efficient, wide-bodied planes like the A350 and latest versions of the B777 to replace the existing four-engined A340s and B747s in its current fleet.

 

[explo]

Da BusinessTraveller dove ho letto la notizia

With the exception of the A380 superjumbo, rising fuel costs have made four-engined planes redundant.

According to industry publication Aviation Week, Lufthansa intends to dispose of its brand new fleet of B747-8s in the 2020s, well before they were originally scheduled for retirement.

Normally, a B747 would remain in service with a major carrier for between 20 and 30 years, yet Lufthansa's fleet of B747-8s (it has 19 of these craft on order) are still being delivered factory-fresh from Boeing.

Speaking at IATA's AGM in Cape Town, Lufthansa CEO Christoph Franz indicated that his airline would be ordering twin-engined, but more fuel-efficient, wide-bodied planes like the A350 and latest versions of the B777 to replace the existing four-engined A340s and B747s in its current fleet.

ok, tks

 

[kenyaprince]

British Airways (BA) has confirmed that like its fellow UK carrier, Thomson Airways, it will take delivery of its first two Boeing 787 Dreamliners on consecutive days and is currently finalising the initial in-service plans for the modern generation aircraft. The airline confirms that its first aircraft is due to arrive at its London Heathrow base around mid-morning on June 26, 2013 with the second aircraft following just 24 hours later on June 27, 2013. BA has also confirmed its first Airbus A380, which will be displayed next week at the Paris Air Show in France, will be delivered on July 4, 2013.
“The delivery of these exciting aircraft opens a new chapter in British Airways’ history. We are proud to be leading the way in Europe in operating both these aircraft types,” said Keith Williams, Chief Executive officer, British Airways. “Both aircraft types make major environmental advances and will contribute toward our ambitious targets for noise and carbon reduction.”
These deliveries form the centrepiece of the £5 billion investment by British Airways in new aircraft, smarter cabins, superb lounges and new technologies to make travel more comfortable for its passengers in the air and on the ground. “Over the next 12 months, we will take delivery of new long-haul aircraft at an average rate of one every two weeks,” added Williams.
BA will be the first European operator to introduce both the Airbus A380 and the Boeing 787 into its fleet and the second in the world, behind China Southern Airlines. After their arrival both aircraft types will begin what BA describes as a “complex entry into service programme”, which as first revealed on our Twitter account last month, will see pilot and cabin crew training taking place at Manston Airport in Kent. BA confirms that additional customer service trials will take place at London Heathrow, while short-haul flying for both aircraft will include flights within the UK.
The carrier has already revealed that the A380 will enter scheduled passenger service on its route from London Heathrow to Los Angeles from October 15, 2013 and between London Heathrow and Hong Kong from November 15, 2013 but it and the 787 will enter passenger service on other routes ahead of then. BA has not yet confirmed the proposed dates or the initial commercial destinations the aircraft will serve but an announcement is expected very shortly.
The 787 will bring new opportunities for BA and will seat 214 passengers (35 in Club World Business Class, 25 in World Traveller Plus Premium Economy and 154 in World Traveller Economy). In terms of capacity it can act as a direct replacement for its ageing 767-300ER fleet, seating around 20 additional passengers in this three-class configuration. However, its efficiency and operational performance means it is also well placed to open new long-haul markets and to replace larger 777-200ER equipment and right-sizing demand in some particular markets.
Although the aircraft will likely make its debut on European routes, destinations such as Newark Liberty International and Washington Dulles in the US and Calgary International, Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau International and Toronto Lester B Pearson International are thought possible long-haul markets for the jet. The 787 is also well-placed to serve new emerging markets in Asia and could be used effectively on existing routes to India and to expand BA’s activities across Asia.
In the table below we highlight the destinations that BA currently serves with its 767-300ER according to its 2013 flight schedule and all possible future destinations for the 787.

BRITISH AIRWAYS SCHEDULED BOEING 767-300ER DESTINATIONS IN 2013 (non-stop departures; 2013)
Domestic	European	Medium-Haul and Long-Haul
Glasgow (GLA)	Amsterdam (AMS)	Almaty (ALA)
Edinburgh (EDI)	Athens (ATH)	Baltimore (BWI)
	Barcelona (BCN)	Cairo (CAI)
	Berlin (TXL)	Calgary (YYC)
	Copenhagen (CPH)	Dar es Salaam (DAR)
	Frankfurt (FRA)	Dubai (DXB)
	Geneva (GVA)	Entebbe (EBB)
	Istanbul (IST)	Freetown (FNA)
	Larnaca (LCA)	Grand Cayman (GCM)
	Madrid (MAD)	Hyderabad (HYD)
	Moscow (DME)	Jeddah (JED)
	Paris (CDG)	Lusaka (LUN)
	Rome (FCO)	Montreal (YUL)
	Stockholm (ARN)	Nassau (NAS)
		Newark (EWR)
		Philadelphia (PHL)
		Providenciales (PLS)
		Toronto (YYZ)
		Washington (IAD)

 

[AirTree]

http://airlineroute.net/2013/06/15/787-15jun13update/


Update as of 15JUN13: List of Planned Boeing 787 Operational Routes
by JL
Update at 1730GMT 15JUN13

As of 15JUN13 GDS timetable and inventory display, latest updates to planned Boeing 787 operations from 12 operators as follow. Further changes to planned resumption dates as well as new routes will be reported once GDS info is being updated. Individual updates will appear under category “Boeing 787” on Airline Route.

AeroMexico
Mexico City – Monterrey 01OCT13 AM906/913 (Inaugural flight)
Mexico City – Tijuana 01OCT13 AM176/177 (Second Inaugural flight)
Mexico City – New York JFK
02OCT13 – 14OCT13 AM402/403 Daily service
eff 17OCT13 AM408/409 3 weekly service (2 weekly from 03FEB14 to 28FEB14)

Mexico City – Tijuana – Tokyo Narita – Mexico City eff 14OCT13 3 weekly service (4 weekly from 04APR14)
Mexico City – Paris CDG eff 15OCT13 3 weekly (daily from 04NOV13)
Mexico City – Buenos Aires eff 05FEB14 1 weekly (4 weekly from 14MAR14, 5 weekly from 20MAR14, 7 weekly from 17APR14)
Mexico City – Madrid 26APR14 and 03MAY14 only (MAD departs on the following day)

Air India
Future Boeing 787 Routes:
Delhi – Hong Kong – Osaka Kansai eff 26JUN13 3 weekly
Delhi – Hong Kong – Seoul Incheon eff 25JUN13 4 weekly

Current Boeing 787 Routes:
Delhi – Bangalore eff 15MAY13 1 daily
Delhi – Kolkata eff 15MAY13 1 daily
Delhi – London Heathrow eff 22MAY13 1 daily (AI115/116)
Delhi – Chennai eff 28MAY13 1 daily
Delhi – Frankfurt eff 30MAY13 1 daily
Delhi – Paris CDG eff 06JUN13 1 daily

ANA
Planned service increase on following Boeing 787 Routes:
Tokyo Haneda – Okayama eff 01JUL13 Increase from 1 to 2 daily (787 service resumed on 01JUN13 with 1 daily)
Tokyo Haneda – Takamatsu eff 30JUN13 Increase from 2 to 3 daily (Resumed on 01JUN13 with 2 daily)
Tokyo Haneda – Yamaguchi-Ube eff 12JUL13 Increase from 3 to 4 daily (Resumed on 01JUN13 with 2 daily, 3 daily from 02JUN13)
Tokyo Narita – San Jose CA eff 10JUL13 Increase from 5 weekly to 1 daily (Resumed on 01JUN13 with 5 weekly)

Current and Future Boeing 787 Routes:
Tokyo Haneda – Akita eff 01JUN13 1 daily
Tokyo Haneda – Beijing eff 01JUN13 1 daily
Tokyo Haneda – Hiroshima eff 01JUN13 2 daily (1 daily till 03JUN13)
Tokyo Haneda – Frankfurt eff 01JUN13 1 daily
Tokyo Haneda – Fukuoka eff 01JUN13 2 daily (1 daily from 15JUN13)
Tokyo Haneda – Kagoshima eff 01JUN13 4 daily (2-3 daily till 03JUN13)
Tokyo Haneda – Kumamoto eff 01JUN13 2 daily
Tokyo Haneda – Matsuyama eff 01JUN13 2 daily
Tokyo Haneda – Miyazaki eff 01JUN13 2 daily (1 daily till 03JUN13)
Tokyo Haneda – Okinawa eff 01JUN13 2 weekly (CARGO flight)
Tokyo Haneda – Osaka Itami eff 01JUN13 3 daily (2 daily till 03JUN13)
Tokyo Haneda – Taipei Song Shan eff 01JUN13 1 daily
Tokyo Haneda – Toyama eff 15JUN13 3 daily
Tokyo Narita – Beijing eff 01JUN13 1 daily (Boeing 787 schedule on/after 01AUG13 is now available for reservation)
Tokyo Narita – Shanghai Pu Dong 01AUG13 – 25AUG13 1 daily

Previously operated Boeing 787 Route:
Tokyo Haneda – Sapporo Chitose Service resumed on 26MAY13, operating as extra flights and replacing other aircraft on existing service, until 31MAY13

Domestic Japan frequencies may vary from 01AUG13
Certain International 787 operations remain pending on/after 01SEP13

China Southern
Guangzhou – Beijing 07JUN13 – 24JUN13 1 daily (CZ3103/3100; Planned inaugural on 06JUN13 cancelled due to weather)

Schedule on/after 25JUN13 is pending

Ethiopian Airlines
Current and Future Boeing 787 Routes:
Addis Ababa – Dubai eff 28APR13 up to 2 daily
Addis Ababa – Abuja 26JUN13, 28JUN13
*Addis Ababa – Beijing 15JUN13, 17JUN13 – 19JUN13, 21JUN13, 23JUN13 – 25JUN13, 27JUN13, 29JUN13, 01JUL13 (New Date added on 18JUN13)
Addis Ababa – Frankfurt eff 16JUL13 1 daily
Addis Ababa – Guangzhou 30JUL13, 01AUG13 (CAN departs on the next day)
*Addis Ababa – Harare – Lusaka – Addis Ababa eff 12MAY13 ET873 3 weekly (Except 17JUN13, 19JUN13)
Addis Ababa – Hong Kong – Seoul Incheon 787 operating one-off service on 18JUN13 (ICN departure 19JUN13)
*Addis Ababa – Jeddah 787 operating on 16JUN13, 17JUN13
*Addis Ababa – Johannesburg 15JUN13 – 30JUN13 1 daily (EXCEPT 17JUN13)
Addis Ababa – Lome – Rio de Janeiro – Sao Paulo – Lome – Addis Ababa eff 01JUL13 3 weekly (Except 29JUL13 from ADD/LFW, 30JUL13 from GRU)
Addis Ababa – London Heathrow eff 16JUN13 6 weekly (Including 1 weekly via Rome on outbound; 787 will now continue operation from 01JUL13 to 30JUL13)
Addis Ababa – Lusaka – Harare – Addis Ababa eff 11MAY13 ET863 4 weekly
*Addis Ababa – Nairobi – Bujumbura 787 operating on 16JUN13 – 18JUN13 (NEW Date added)
*Addis Ababa – Rome – Toronto eff 10MAY13 2 weekly until 16JUN13, 3 weekly from 19JUN13 (Except 17JUN13, 19JUN13, 23AUG13, 26AUG13, 30AUG13 from YYZ)
*Addis Ababa – Washington Dulles Planned One-off service on 18JUN13 (19JUN13 from IAD) Cancelled

* New Update as of 14JUN13

Previously operated Ethiopian Boeing 787 routes/flights:
Addis Ababa – Nairobi One-off service on 27APR13, First Boeing 787 resumed service
Addis Ababa – Abuja 29MAY13, 12JUN13
Addis Ababa – Beijing 05JUN13, 07JUN13, 10JUN13 – 11JUN13, 13JUN13
Addis Ababa – Frankfurt 28APR13 – 08MAY13 1 daily
Addis Ababa – Guangzhou 03JUN13
Addis Ababa – Jeddah 787 operated on 06JUN13, 09JUN13, 10JUN13, 12JUN13 – 14JUN13
Addis Ababa – Johannesburg 03JUN13 – 13JUN13 1 daily (Except 08JUN13)
Addis Ababa – Lagos 28MAY13 – 02JUN13 1 daily (as well as 07JUN13, 08JUN13, 10JUN13, 12JUN13, 14JUN13)
Addis Ababa – Mumbai 16MAY13 – 06JUN13 1 daily
Addis Ababa – Nairobi – Bujumbura 10MAY13 – 12JUN13 1 daily (Except 22MAY13 – 23MAY13, 27MAY13 – 31MAY13, 03JUN13 – 04JUN13, 06JUN13 – 11JUN13)
Addis Ababa – Riyadh 787 operated on 12JUN13, 13JUN13
Addis Ababa – Washington Dulles 07MAY13 – 08JUN13 Selected dates

JAL
Tokyo Haneda – Beijing eff 01JUN13 1 daily
Tokyo Haneda – Singapore eff 01JUN13 1 daily
Tokyo Narita – Boston eff 01JUN13 1 daily
Tokyo Narita – San Diego eff 01JUN13 1 daily
Tokyo Narita – Singapore eff 01JUN13 2 daily
Tokyo Narita – Helsinki eff 01JUL13 1 daily
Tokyo Narita – Delhi eff 12JUL13 1 daily (Previously to be resumed from 01JUN13; 787 also operated on 12JUN13 and 14JUN13)
Tokyo Haneda – San Francisco eff 01SEP13 1 daily (SFO from 31AUG13)
Tokyo Narita – Moscow Domodedovo eff 01SEP13 3 weekly
Tokyo Narita – Sydney eff 01DEC13 1 daily
Tokyo Narita – Bangkok eff 02DEC13 4 weekly (JL707 Day x357; JL718 Day x146)

LAN Airlines
Current Boeing 787 Routes since 18MAY13:
Santiago de Chile – Buenos Aires Ezeiza 1 – 2 daily
Santiago de Chile – Lima 2 – 3 daily

Boeing 787 operational frequencies vary on both routes above. Following is future Boeing 787 routes:
Santiago de Chile – Lima – Los Angeles eff 01JUL13 1 daily (Except 31AUG13 to 30SEP13 from SCL; Service Resumption)
Santiago de Chile – New York JFK 31AUG13 – 30SEP13 1 daily (JFK departure 01SEP13 to 01OCT13)
Santiago de Chile – Madrid – Frankfurt eff 01OCT13 1 daily

LOT Polish Airlines
Warsaw – New York JFK LOT Resumed Boeing 787 operation on 01JUN13, operating LO006/007 until 04JUN13

Warsaw – Beijing eff 01AUG13 3 weekly
Warsaw – Chicago eff 05JUN13 11 weekly
Warsaw – Tbilisi One-off service on 26JUN13 and 30JUN13 (27JUN13 / 01JUL13 from TBS)
Warsaw – Toronto eff 07JUN13 3 weekly (7 weekly from 28JUN13)
Warsaw – New York JFK eff 30JUN13 2 weekly (4 weekly from 01AUG13; 3 weekly from 02OCT13)

Norwegian
Intra-European Boeing 787 operation scheduled from 04JUL13 to 04AUG13:
Oslo – Malaga 04JUL13 – 04AUG13 DY1800/1801 Day x156
Oslo – London Gatwick 04JUL13 – 04AUG13 DY1310/1311 Day 47
Oslo – Alicante 05JUL13 – 02AUG13 DY1790/1791 Day 15
Oslo – Barcelona 05JUL13 – 02AUG13 DY1742/1743 Day 15
Oslo – Nice 06JUL13 – 03AUG13 DY1402/1403 Day 6 / DY1406/1407 Day 23

Future Long-Haul Boeing 787 operational Routes:
Copenhagen – Ft. Lauderdale eff 29NOV13 2 weekly
Oslo – Bangkok eff 31AUG13 3 weekly
Oslo – Ft. Lauderdale eff 30NOV13 2 weekly
Oslo – New York JFK eff 01SEP13 3 weekly (4 weekly from 29NOV13)
Stockholm – Bangkok eff 31AUG13 3 weekly
Stockholm – Ft. Lauderdale eff 01DEC13 2 weekly
Stockholm – New York JFK eff 02SEP13 3 weekly

QATAR Airways
Future Boeing 787 Routes:
Doha – Copenhagen eff 01SEP13 1 daily
Doha – Oslo eff 01SEP13 1 daily
Doha – Stockholm eff 01AUG13 1 daily

Current Boeing 787 Routes:
Doha – Dubai Boeing 787 aircraft resumed commercial operation on 01MAY13; up to 7 daily service for May 2013 (Various frequencies from 01JUN13)
Doha – London Heathrow eff 15MAY13 1 daily (EXCEPT 15JUN13 – 21JUN13, 29JUN13, 16JUL13)
Doha – Frankfurt eff 26MAY13 1 daily (2 daily from 01JUL13. 787 operation scheduled until 26OCT13)
Doha – Munich eff 20MAY13 1 daily (2 daily from 01JUN13)
Doha – Zurich eff 01JUN13 1 daily

Previously operated Boeing 787 Route:
Doha – Manchester 1 round-trip flight each on 19MAY13 and 20MAY13

Thomson Airways
**Actual launch date for flights in July and August 2013 may vary by up to 7 days
East Midlands – Cancun eff 07AUG13 1 weekly
East Midlands – Orlando Sanford eff 06AUG13 1 weekly
Glasgow – Cancun eff 15JUL13 1 weekly
Glasgow – Orlando Sanford eff 09JUL13 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Aruba eff 06MAY14 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Barbados 15DEC13 – 20APR14 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Cancun eff 09JUL13 2 – 3 weekly
London Gatwick – Goa eff 02NOV13 1 – 2 weekly
London Gatwick – Holguin 11DEC13 – 24APR14 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Male 03NOV13 – 27APR14 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Mauritius eff 04MAY14 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Mombasa 04NOV13 – 28APR14 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Montego Bay eff 07NOV13 1 weekly (2 weekly from 31MAR14)
London Gatwick – Orlando Sanford eff 10JUL13 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Phuket 05NOV13 – 29APR14 1 weekly (Previously reported)
London Gatwick – Puerto Plata 13NOV13 – 26APR14 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Puerto Vallarta eff 03MAY14 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Punta Cana 01NOV13 – 22APR14 1 weekly (2 weekly from 10DEC13)
Manchester – Barbados eff 15DEC13 1 weekly
Manchester – Cancun eff 13JUL13 2 weekly (3 weekly from 02NOV13)
Manchester – Goa eff 05NOV13 1 weekly
Manchester – Montego Bay eff 04MAY14 1 weekly (2 weekly from 23JUL14)
Manchester – Orlando Sanford eff 11JUL13 1 – 2 weekly
Manchester – Puerto Plata eff 05MAY14 1 weekly
Manchester – Puerto Vallarta eff 01MAY14 1 weekly
Manchester – Punta Cana eff 02APR14 1 weekly (2 weekly from 03MAY14)
Newcastle – Cancun 01APR14 – 22APR14 1 weekly
Stockholm – Helsinki – Mombasa 22DEC13 – 30MAR14 1 weekly

UNITED
UNITED Resumed Boeing 787 service on 20MAY13 as UA001/002, Houston – Chicago. Following is Current Boeing 787 Routes:
Houston – Chicago eff 20MAY13 1 daily (3 daily from 21MAY13, 4 daily from 22MAY13 to 09JUN13 only)
Houston – Denver eff 21MAY13 1 daily (2 daily from 22MAY13, 3 daily from 24MAY13, 4 daily from 25MAY13. Overall service to operate 1 daily only from 10JUN13)
Houston – Los Angeles eff 24MAY13 2 daily (3 daily from 25MAY13 to 09JUN13)
Houston – London Heathrow 10JUN13 – 11AUG13 1 daily (5 weekly from 02AUG13 to 11AUG13)
Denver – Tokyo Narita eff 10JUN13 1 daily (11JUN13 from NRT)

Future Boeing 787 Routes:
Houston – Lagos eff 12AUG13 5 weekly (13AUG13 from LOS)
Los Angeles – Tokyo Narita eff 01AUG13 1 daily (02AUG13 from NRT)
Los Angeles – Shanghai Pu Dong eff 02AUG13 1 daily (03AUG13 from PVG)

Previously operated Boeing 787 Route:
Houston – Newark 1-off service from Houston on 20MAY13, Newark departure on 21MAY13

The next Boeing 787 Routes Summary Report is scheduled around 29JUN13.

(Visited 1,449 times, 1,449 visits today)
Read more from 2013, 2013/14, 2014, AeroMexico, Air India, ANA, China Southern, Ethiopian Airlines, JAL, LAN, LOT Polish, Norwegian, QATAR Airways, Thomson Airways, UNITED, [Boeing 787], [oneWorld], [Skyteam], [Star Alliance]

 

[mauro.]

United Airlines said on Tuesday that a Boeing 787 on its way to Tokyo from Denver was diverted to Seattle after an indication of a problem with an oil filter in an engine, but the plane landed without incident.
The unscheduled diversion is the latest hiccup for Boeing's newest plane, which has been beset by problems and only recently returned to the skies after regulators grounded it worldwide due to trouble with its batteries.
"United flight 139 from Denver to Tokyo-Narita diverted to Seattle due to an indication of a problem with an oil filter," United said in an emailed statement. "The aircraft landed normally and without incident and we are working to re-accommodate customers."
Boeing said it was aware of the issue and was working with United and GE Aviation on the problem.
Regulators and investors are keenly following the progress of the 787 Dreamliner which was more than three years late getting into service after a number of production setbacks.
Introduced by airlines in late 2011, the 787 was grounded worldwide in January after its lithium-ion batteries overheated on two jets in a week. It resumed commercial service in May after Boeing installed a redesigned battery system on the 50 jets in service.
There was no initial indication that any problem with the plane on Tuesday was related to the battery.
(Reuters)

 

[LICA]

Volerò sul 787 di Norwegian il 4 Agosto, da LGW a OSL
Qualcuno si vuole unire?

 

[Stefan]

C'e' una cosa che mi sfugge che senso ha avuto per LH farsi sviluppare il 748 praticamente solo per loro (pax) e poi dismetterlo dopo 10 anni? Premetto che ho avuto il piacere di volarci e a livello di confort (unico parametro che da non esperto posso valutare) mi e' sembrato eccellente.
Ammiro e apprezzo LH ma praticamente tra loro, Swiss e Austrian hanno ti tutto di piu' per il lungo raggio... c'e' tra di voi riesce a darmi una spiegazione? Sembra che comprino aerei a casaccio senza uno straccio di strategia e pianificazione...

 

[kenadams]

C'e' una cosa che mi sfugge che senso ha avuto per LH farsi sviluppare il 748 praticamente solo per loro (pax) e poi dismetterlo dopo 10 anni? Premetto che ho avuto il piacere di volarci e a livello di confort (unico parametro che da non esperto posso valutare) mi e' sembrato eccellente.
Ammiro e apprezzo LH ma praticamente tra loro, Swiss e Austrian hanno ti tutto di piu' per il lungo raggio... c'e' tra di voi riesce a darmi una spiegazione? Sembra che comprino aerei a casaccio senza uno straccio di strategia e pianificazione...

Evidentemente hanno creduto nella misura dell'aereo - che in LH giudicavano ideale per il network transatlantico - e nei bassi costi di introduzione in flotta, dato il numero già alto di 747-400ER in flotta. Avranno, peraltro, come cliente di lancio, strappato un prezzaccio.
Poi, però, General Electric ha mancato gli obiettivi di economia dei consumi e, soprattutto, LH ha capito adesso quello che in Cathay Pacific ripetono dal 2008 (ricordo un'intervista eloquente al CEO) e che Clark di Emirates va ripetendo da tempo. La differenza di posti fra un 747 e un 777-300ER stipato con dieci posti in sezione trasversale in economy class non è sufficiente a giustificare la differenza nei costi operativi delle due macchine: parafrasando, il CEO di Cathay disse anni fa che, dati i costi attuali del carburante, è preferibile rinunciare a quel 10-20% di posti in più, sottraendoli al 10-20% di capacità con lo yield più basso, e sfruttando l'economia di un bigetto.
Il 777X darà il colpo di grazia al 747-8i.

 

[Stefan]

Evidentemente hanno creduto nella misura dell'aereo - che in LH giudicavano ideale per il network transatlantico - e nei bassi costi di introduzione in flotta, dato il numero già alto di 747-400ER in flotta. Avranno, peraltro, come cliente di lancio, strappato un prezzaccio.

Grazie per la spiegazione, mi lascia perplesso il fatto che con i segnali che dici gia' arrivati da Emirates e altri utilizzatori di 747 in LH abbiano perseverato con una scelta che a questo punto si rivela fallimentare. Non gli bastava dover sostituire i 345-6 perche' antieconomici si sono messi in casa una nuova macchina che nel caso e' anche peggio... a questo punto direi che un passaggio ai 787 o 350 diventa indispensabile. Magari i nuovi 777 per Swiss potrebbero essere un indizio...?

 

[Cesare.Caldi]

Stop al B787, Jal vuole chiedere i danni a Boeing

Il vettore stima di aver perduto un netto di 3,9 miliardi di yen, pari a 31 milioni di euro, nel periodo di fermo dei velivoli

Japan Airlines vuole un risarcimento da Boeing per le perdite legate allo stop forzato del Dreamliner, legato al ben noto problema alle batterie al litio. Il vettore stima di aver perduto un netto di 3,9 miliardi di yen, pari a 31 milioni di euro, nel periodo di fermo dei velivoli. Il calcolo è stato fatto togliendo le spese di manutenzione che Jal avrebbe dovuto sostenere se gli aerei avessero volato. GuidaViaggi