Malaysia Airlines volo MH370 disperso - PUBBLICATO IL REPORT FINALE

[Tiennetti]

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A me non sembra bruciato....

 

[AZ209]

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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/possible-mh370-debris-submitted-to-atsb-429218/

Possible MH370 debris submitted to ATSB

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) as received debris recovered by an individual conducting a private search along Africa's west coast which may be linked to the missingMalaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER that operated flight MH370.
Australian media has reported that Blaine Gibson recovered five pieces of debris on the coast of Madagascar, and that two of the pieces appear to show evidence of fire damage.
In response to a query from FlightGlobal, the ATSB confirmed that it received the debris from Gibson on 12 September, and that it is "seeking advice form Malaysian authorities regarding how they would like to proceed."
It adds that Malaysia maintains overall responsibility for the investigation into the missing jet, and is thus responsible for all analysis of possible MH370 debris.
The Australian authority has previously identified a number of other pieces of debris that washed up along the African coast - including a flaperon, and pieces from the wing, interior and engine cowling - as likely being from the missing jet, which was registered 9M-MRO.
In the absence of any new leads, the governments of Australia, Malaysia and China have agreed to suspend the underwater search for MH370 once the 120,000km2 primary search zone has been completed, which is likely in December.
A number of MH370 passengers' families are campaigning for the three governments to continue the search.
MH370 disappeared en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in the early hours of 8 March 2014. The Malaysian investigation has concluded that the aircraft ended its flight in the southern Indian Ocean.

 

[Dancrane]

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Da AvHerald:

On Sep 15th 2016 Malaysia's Minister of Transport announced, that the part has been positively identified an inboard section of the outboard wing flap, all manufacturing numbers and identification stamps found on the debris are consistent with the aircraft line 404 which was delivered to Malaysia Airlines and registered as 9M-MRO. The Minister therefore stated: "It was confirmed that Part No. 5 was the inboard section of a Boeing 777 right, outboard flap, originating from the Malaysian Airlines aircraft registered 9M-MRO."

Trattasi del pezzo ritrovato in Tanzania

 

[AZ209]

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Le autorita' malesi hanno pubblicato una lista dei 22 resti/detriti trovati sulle spiagge africane dell'oceano indiano che sono stati gia confermati ufficialmente come resti del MH370 o catalogati come altamente probabili.

List of debris with likely MH370 link grows

Malaysian authorities have released a list of 22 items found on beaches along the Indian Ocean’s African littoral region that have either been confirmed as being debris from MH370, or are likely to be so.
The items were found in Reunion, Mozambique, South Africa, Mauritius, Madagascar, and Tanzania. The list was published by the Malaysian government on its official MH370 web site.
Of the 22 items, three are confirmed as coming from the lost Boeing 777-200ER: the right flaperon, an outboard aft flap section, and a right outboard flap.
The flaperon, found on 29 July 2015 on Reunion Island, was the first item discovered from the missing flight, and prompted wide media coverage last year. The outboard aft flap section was found in 10 May 2016 on Mauritius, and the right outboard flap on 20 June 2016 in Tanzania.
Five items, found from late 2015 to early 2016, are categorised as having “almost certainly” originated from the lost aircraft: a right-wing flap track fairing; a piece of a right horizontal stabilizer panel; an engine nose cowl; the door R1 stowage closet; and a cabin interior panel.
A further fifteen items are under evaluation, with one item deemed not identifiable.
Items under evaluation include a right hand engine fan cowling, a wing trailing edge panel, and a seat back panel from an aircraft’s in-flight entertainment system.
The list does not provide the circumstances under which the items were found, although they originated from widely separated locations along the Indian Ocean’s western littoral.
Notably, the list excludes two pieces of debris recently found on a beach in Madagascar by private searcher Blaine Gibson. In early October, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said it had yet to find a link between the two items and MH370.
The two glassfibre honeycomb pieces of debris do not bear any identifying marks that would confirm they come from a Boeing 777-200ER, says the ATSB.
MH370 disappeared enroute from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in the early hours of 8 March 2014. The Malaysian investigation has concluded that the aircraft, registered 9M-MRO, ended its flight in the southern Indian Ocean. FG

 

[AZ209]

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Conferme importanti dall'Australiana ATSB
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/02/mh370-australia-new-search-data-plane-plummeted-ocean

MH370: data suggests plane was out of control as it plummeted into ocean

Australia reviews search after ‘important new information’ from satellite data reveals plane was in high and increasing rate of descent in final moments

Australia is mounting a case for a new search effort for MH370 bolstered by “important new information” about what investigators believe to have happened at the end of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight.
A new report by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) suggests the plane was in a “high and increasing rate of descent” at the time of its final satellite communications, and that the right outboard wing flap found on Pemba islandwas not deployed at the time of the crash.
Both are consistent with an uncontrolled plane plummeting into the ocean in the final moments of a flight in which it was not configured for a landing or ditching.
The future of the hunt for MH370 hinges on whether this constitutes credible new evidence about the location of the wreck. A spokesman for the ATSB declined to say.
But the ATSB is hosting a three-day meeting with other experts from Wednesday to attempt to finalise a proposal to shift the search for the missing plane further north.
The ATSB has been leading the hunt for MH370 in a 120,000 sq km area of the southern Indian ocean, with the remaining 10,000 sq km due to be completed early next year.
As that venture nears completion, the likelihood of finding the wreckage has dwindled, and there have been calls from experts for the search effort to be shifted further north – calls to which the ATSB has now given credence.
The report released on Wednesday pointed to drift analysis and the times and locations at which debris has been found as evidence that the crash site was likely to be “within the current search area, or further north”.

Simulations have also shown some northernmost areas “to be less likely” to be the site of the plane’s wreckage than others, and ongoing analysis is expected to further refine those results.

There are now more than 20 items of debris of interest to investigators, including seven that have been examined and determined to have come from MH370. All were found on coastlines of the western Indian Ocean, including Madagascar, Mauritius, Réunion and Rodrigues.
No debris has made landfall on Tasmania or Western Australia, effectively ruling out a crash site south of the search area.
It is not clear whether efforts to extend the search will be accepted. At a tripartite meeting in July, the transport ministers for Australia, Malaysia and China agreed that the search effort would be suspended indefinitely with the completion of the current area.
The MH370 first principles review summit currently under way in Canberra is understood to be aiming to reach a robust and fully costed proposal for the Australian transport minister, Darren Chester, to take to his counterparts in Malaysia and China – the destination of flight MH370 and home to most of its 227 passengers – to persuade them to agree to renew the search.

Analysis of the recovered right outboard wing flap section (inverted) of MH370 suggested it was not set for landing at the time it separated from the plane. Photograph: AFP/Getty ImagesChester said in a statement on Wednesday that the fresh ATSB report contained “important new information on what we believe happened at the end of MH370’s flight”.

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He said the summit would review “all the available data and analysis associated with the search to date … inform the remainder of the search effort, and develop guidance for any future search operations”.
Both Chester and Greg Hood, the chief commissioner of the ATSB, were unavailable to speak to Guardian Australia on Wednesday. But a spokeswoman for Chester said the review summit was to review the findings so far, and expanding the search was not on the agenda.
Even if the likely site of the plane’s wreck was determined, any new search effort outside of the current area would have to be agreed upon by the three governments involved.
The challenge would likely be persuading China and Malaysia to contribute to the cost of a new search, reportedly in the region of AU$30m (£18.7m). Almost AU$200m has been spent on the underwater operation currently underway, with the bulk of the expense shouldered by Malaysia and Australia.

News that the ATSB was attempting to define a new search area, despite a lack of any funding commitment, was first reported in August. “If it is not in the area which we defined, it’s going to be somewhere else in the near vicinity,” Hood told Associated Press at the time.
The ATSB has not requested any new funding, the spokesman told Guardian Australia.

Though Australia is leading the search for the wreckage of the plane, Malaysia holds overall responsibility for the investigation. Representatives are understood to be present at the review summit in Canberra, though not the Malaysian transport minister.
Its authorities have been accused of a lack of urgency with potential pieces of plane debris left to languish in storage, awaiting pickup, for months.
In a surprise development on Tuesday, Malaysia Airlines granted lawyers in Sydney representing victims’ families access to a huge number of company records, including maintenance log books and medical certificates of the crew.
The documents have thus far only been released to the Malaysian police report into MH370, which remains secret.
John Dawson, a partner at Carneys Lawyers, told Reuters that he had been advised he would receive the information by the end of November. Guardian Australia has contacted Dawson for comment.

 

[AZ209]

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Secondo l'ultimo report dell'ATSB e' molto probabile che la zona dove sono state concentrate ed effettuate le ultime ricerche sia completamente sbagliata. L'aereo dovrebbe trovarsi in un'area di 25.000 km quadrati piu' a nord dell'attuale.

MH370: Plane 'not likely to be in search area', say investigators

Experts leading the hunt for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 have said the plane is unlikely to be found in the current search area, and recommended looking further north.
No trace of the plane has been recovered in the southern Indian Ocean, after more than two years of searching.
MH370 disappeared while flying to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur with 239 people on board in 2014.
With the search to end soon, Australian officials say it will not be extended.
Australia's Transport Minister Darren Chester said the search would be unlikely to go beyond the scheduled end of January or February 2017 as the report does not give a "specific location" for the aircraft.
The governments of Australia, Malaysia and China, who are funding the search, had previously agreed that "we will be suspending the search unless credible evidence is available" that identifies the location, he said.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), tasked to coordinate the search, convened a review with a multi-national team of aviation and science experts in November.
Its latest report, based on that meeting, said "there is a high degree of confidence that the previously identified underwater area searched to date does not contain the missing aircraft".
Search vessels have been looking in a 120,000 sq km (46,332 sq miles) part of the southern Indian Ocean.
Experts identified a new area of approximately 25,000 sq km to the north of the current search area that had the "highest probability" of containing the wreckage.
"The participants of the First Principles Review were in agreement on the need to search an additional area representing approximately 25,000 km²".
This was the last area the plane could possibly be located, given current evidence, the report said.
Their conclusion was based on new flight simulations and analysis of satellite communications, as well as drift modelling patterns based on the timing and locations of the discovery of debris.
Some debris pieces confirmed to be from MH370 have been found along the African coast and islands in the Indian Ocean by private citizens in recent months.
The experts also said the plane was on an "unstable flight path" and that its wing flaps were in a retracted position, in line with earlier findings by the ATSB that the plane made a "rapid and uncontrolled descent".
The ATSB said it had presented the recommendation to the Malaysian, Chinese and Australian governments.
Only one vessel is left searching for the plane in the current search area.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-38375357

 

[kenyaprince]

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-39663395

 

[Fewwy]

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/mh370-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-latest-new-evidence-development-conspiracy-theories-what-a7703531.html

 

[flyingtraveller]

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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/16/asia/mh370-objects-satellite-photos/index.html

 

[aless]

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Conclusa l'indagine da parte della ATSB: https://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/news-items/2017/chapter-closes-on-mh370/.



Chapter closes on the ATSB-led search for MH370
The ATSB has released its report on the Australian-led search in the southern Indian Ocean for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
The Operational Search for MH370

The report, The Operational Search for MH370 records the search for MH370 and Australia’s work on the underwater search, including the ways in which the search area was identified, and how the search was conducted.

The Chief Commissioner of the ATSB, Greg Hood, said that the report demonstrated the extraordinary endeavours of people from around the world.

“This was an unprecedented endeavour and there has been an extraordinary response from the global community,” said Mr Hood. “There were contributions of expertise and resources from private business and organisations, agencies from different Governments, and from private individuals.”

While the resting place of the aircraft has not yet been located, the search was conducted consistent with the highest of standards of safety and professionalism, to the credit of everyone involved.

“The search inspired dedication from so many,” said Mr Hood. “I am proud to have worked with people of such commitment.”

The ATSB’s report was accompanied by the release of the CSIRO’s final MH370 research report. The search for MH370 and ocean surface drift – Part IV confirms the effectiveness of the March-April 2014 surface search in key areas.

“Our deepest sympathies remain with those who lost loved ones on MH370,” said Mr Hood. “It remains a great tragedy, and we wish that we could have brought complete closure to the bereaved. I hope, however, that they can take some solace in the fact that we did all we could do to find answers. Governments from around the world contributed to the search, with extraordinary expertise committed to the task.''


Report finale qui: https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2014/aair/ae-2014-054/

 

[East End Ave]

Piu' che conclusa direi chiusa; drammaticamente e senza risposte.
Quanti simili casi abbiamo nella storia dell'aviazione? Penso pochi, se non nessuno nell'era moderna.
Incredibile.

 

[NoEmptyElse]

Concordo con EastEndAve, ci hanno messo un punto fermo, ma le risposte attese non sono purtroppo arrivate ed è ben chiaro anche a chi ha steso il report.
The reasons for the loss of MH370 cannot be established with certainty until the aircraft is found. It
is almost inconceivable and certainly societally unacceptable in the modern aviation era with 10
million passengers boarding commercial aircraft every day, for a large commercial aircraft to be
missing and for the world not to know with certainty what became of the aircraft and those on
board.

Sono state fatte le ricerche più estese della storia e provate strade nuove, senza risultato. Chi (come me per primo) si diceva "basta che mettano i soldi necessari" è stato purtroppo smentito.
In questo caso possiamo amaramente parlare di sconfitta. Nel 2014 possiamo davvero perderci un liner con 250 persone.
Speriamo che il brusco risveglio porti i necessari consigli.

 

[robygun]

L'unica speranza oramai è che una nave oceanografica o per prospezioni ci inciampi sopra per caso..

 

[belumosi]

Il report comunque è molto interessante. Gli sforzi per trovare l'aereo, non sono davvero mancati.

 

[East End Ave]

Il report comunque è molto interessante. Gli sforzi per trovare l'aereo, non sono davvero mancati.

Senza meno! Tutto il mondo ha cercato; per questo sembra ancora più assurdo.

 

[Simme71]

E' assurdo
La domanda che mi faccio è la seguente: se succedesse oggi, dopo 3 anni, cambierebbe qualcosa a livello di tracciabilità del 777?

 

[Cesare.Caldi]

E' assurdo
La domanda che mi faccio è la seguente: se succedesse oggi, dopo 3 anni, cambierebbe qualcosa a livello di tracciabilità del 777?

In mezzo all' oceano purtroppo penso non cambierebbe nulla ne per un 777 ne per qualunque altro tipo di aereo. L'unica possibilità penso siano le foto satellitari ma non credo si possa mappare continuamente tutto il globo coi satelliti anche e specialmente sugli oceani.

 

[AZ209]

Pare che il Governo Malese voglia ricominciare le ricerche, affidandole ad una societa' USA, la Ocean Infinity tramite un'accordo di "no find-no fee".

MH370: Malaysia in talks with US firm to restart plane search

Malaysia is negotiating a "no find-no fee" deal with a US company to renew the search for downed flight MH370.
The government announced in a statement that it was in talks with Texas-based salvage firm Ocean Infinity.
If the deal goes ahead, Ocean Infinity will foot the bill and recoup costs only if it finds the missing plane.
The disappearance of MH370 remains shrouded in mystery. The flight fell off radar on 8 March 2014 en route to Beijing, with 239 people on board.
Australian Transport Minister Darren Chester said on Friday that a deal had been reached between Malaysia and Ocean Infinity, but the Malaysian government later clarified in a statement that it was still in talks.
A massive maritime search operation for the plane cleared 120,000 sq km at an estimated cost of about A$200m (£120m; €133m), before it was suspended in January.
Ocean Infinity has not revealed the estimated cost of a search. According to Mr Chester, any new operation will focus on a 25,000 sq km area identified by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau as having a "high probability" of containing the aircraft.

Ocean Infinity is in talks with the government about using a centuries-old model known in the salvage industry as "no cure-no pay" - a type of deal usually applied in the recovery of valuable sunken cargo.
Under such a deal, a salvage company will take on the financial risk of a recovery and recoup from the owner a percentage of the cargo's value if it is found, often 80 or 90%.
In this case, Ocean Infinity would likely be working instead for a set fee from the Malaysian government, and for the significant publicity on offer should it find the wreckage, an industry expert told the BBC.

MH370 was carrying passengers and crew from 14 different countries when it disappeared, most from China and Malaysia.
Australia led the initial search, after aviation officials identified the ocean floor off its coast as the likely location of the wreckage. The country has agreed to provide technical assistance for the new search, Mr Chester said.
Earlier this month, Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said the government had received proposals from three private search firms - Ocean Infinity, Dutch firm Fugro and an unidentified Malaysian company.
Delivering its report into the disappearance earlier this month, Australia's Transport Safety Bureau said it was "almost inconceivable" that the aircraft had not been found.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41691794

 

[Casa]

Pare che il Governo Malese voglia ricominciare le ricerche, affidandole ad una societa' USA, la Ocean Infinity tramite un'accordo di "no find-no fee".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41691794

Per accettare devono essere piuttosto sicuri di se stessi.

 

[Jighen]

Sembra che le ricerche ripartiranno a dicembre o gennaio:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/mh370/5764...s-offer-to-start-new-search-for-missing-plane