LOT, ANA, BA, Royal Brunei, LAN, Norwegian non faranno niente: montano motori RR. Questa è sul groppone di GE.
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mi quoto... ma questo modello di motore GE è solo per il 787 oppure è certificato anche per altri aerei? (777x ?)
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Immagine e responsabilità sono due cose assolutamente separate e distinte come lo sono i contratti di acquisto di aereo e motori.
Mi sembra normale Boeing debba controllare e certificare eventuali modifiche di GE per ottemperare al problema che è' e resta di GE.
Parimenti deve preoccuparsi anche di minimizzare l'impatto di questo problema sulla già difficile immagine del 787.
Dimostrazione lo è il fatto che il 748 abbia gli stessi problemi ma, per i media e' irrilevante,
Le linee aeree non se la prenderanno con Boeing: i motori li hanno comprati da GE. Chiaro che a Boeing interessi contribuire a risolvere il problema in tempi brevi.
Finnair to lease LOT B787 Dreamliner?
Finnair passengers turning up at Helsinki for a flight to New York next month may be in for a surprise.
Instead of the rostered A330-300 they could well find themselves on board a B787 Dreamliner operated by LOT Polish Airlines.
Reports in the Polish media suggest that LOT will shortly sign an agreement with Finnair to lease one of its surplus B787s complete with crew.
If the deal does take place, the leased B787 will operate Finnair flights AY005 and AY006 between Helsinki and New York starting in December.
A Finnair spokesperson confirmed that the airline needed to lease a wide-bodied plane for a short period in December and January to cover flight operations while some of its fleet is retrofitted with new business class seats. “But no final decision has been made,” claims the spokesperson.
The above arrangement, should it proceed, would be ideal for LOT which is anxious to make more use of its B787 fleet. Poland’s national airline ordered eight of these planes (five of which are now in service) for an ambitious expansion plan which, because of LOT’s financial predicament (see news,January 6), never materialised.
But if Finnair were to lease a LOT B787 it would have to cope with reduced business class capacity on the New York route plus the fact that economy class passengers would have to adapt to less comfortable seating.
Finnair's A330s accommodate 42 business and 221 economy class passengers. It does not offer a premium economy cabin. By contrast LOT’s B787s carry 18 business, 21 premium economy and 213 economy class passengers.
LOT’s B787s offer proper flat bed seating in business class but the economy seats are configured 3-3-3 and are only 16.9 inches wide.
Finnair’s A330s have angled lie-flat seats in business class. But economy is disposed 2-4-2 with seats meeting Airbus' 18 inches industry standard
Finnair passengers turning up at Helsinki for a flight to New York next month may be in for a surprise.
Instead of the rostered A330-300 they could well find themselves on board a B787 Dreamliner operated by LOT Polish Airlines.
Reports in the Polish media suggest that LOT will shortly sign an agreement with Finnair to lease one of its surplus B787s complete with crew.
If the deal does take place, the leased B787 will operate Finnair flights AY005 and AY006 between Helsinki and New York starting in December.
A Finnair spokesperson confirmed that the airline needed to lease a wide-bodied plane for a short period in December and January to cover flight operations while some of its fleet is retrofitted with new business class seats. “But no final decision has been made,” claims the spokesperson.
The above arrangement, should it proceed, would be ideal for LOT which is anxious to make more use of its B787 fleet. Poland’s national airline ordered eight of these planes (five of which are now in service) for an ambitious expansion plan which, because of LOT’s financial predicament (see news,January 6), never materialised.
But if Finnair were to lease a LOT B787 it would have to cope with reduced business class capacity on the New York route plus the fact that economy class passengers would have to adapt to less comfortable seating.
Finnair's A330s accommodate 42 business and 221 economy class passengers. It does not offer a premium economy cabin. By contrast LOT’s B787s carry 18 business, 21 premium economy and 213 economy class passengers.
LOT’s B787s offer proper flat bed seating in business class but the economy seats are configured 3-3-3 and are only 16.9 inches wide.
Finnair’s A330s have angled lie-flat seats in business class. But economy is disposed 2-4-2 with seats meeting Airbus' 18 inches industry standard
http://avherald.com/h?article=46679ba1&opt=0
"An Airbridge Cargo Boeing 747-800, registration VQ-BGZ performing freight flight RU-349 from Moscow Sheremetyevo (Russia) to Hong Kong (China), was enroute at FL410 about 80 minutes prior to estimated landing when both left hand engines (GEnx) surged simultaneously, engine #2 (inboard) temporarily shut down and auto-started again. The aircraft continued to Hong Kong for a safe landing on all 4 engines about 80 minutes later."
This is scary shit... :-O
"An Airbridge Cargo Boeing 747-800, registration VQ-BGZ performing freight flight RU-349 from Moscow Sheremetyevo (Russia) to Hong Kong (China), was enroute at FL410 about 80 minutes prior to estimated landing when both left hand engines (GEnx) surged simultaneously, engine #2 (inboard) temporarily shut down and auto-started again. The aircraft continued to Hong Kong for a safe landing on all 4 engines about 80 minutes later."
This is scary shit... :-O
Aeromexico to fly Dreamliner to London
Aeromexico will in April deploy a B787-8 Dreamliner on its Mexico City to London Heathrow route, which is currently operated by a B767.
The airline currently has three Dreamliners in its fleet, the first of which was delivered in August, and is flying these between Mexico City and Tokyo (commenced October), New York (also October) and Paris (earlier this month).
Next year, two more B787-8s will be incorporated into the Aeromexico fleet, from a total of 19 B787s on order (nine B787-8s and ten B787-9s).
Scroll down to view our Flickr slideshow
The new deliveries will allow Aeromexico to introduce the Dreamliner on the Mexico City to Heathrow service in April, replacing the B767-200ER aircraft which doesn't have fully-flat beds in business class or seat-back IFE systems.
The Skyteam member plies the route three times a week, departing London on Mondays, Thursdays and Sundays on AM008 at 2230, arriving the next day at 0525.
The return flight from Mexico City (AM007) leaves at 2235 on Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays, arriving at Heathrow the following day at 1515. In the New Year, the service will be upped to four times weekly.
Aeromexico's two-class B787 accommodates a total of 243 passengers with 32 in business and 211 in economy, which means there is an increase in capacity of 72 seats compared with the B767-200ER (171 seats).
So what can travellers
expect? Business class occupies six rows (one to four, and then five and six in a separate cabin) arranged 2-2-2 (A-C, D-F, G-J), while economy is 3-3-3 (A-B-C, D-E-F, G-H-J) across rows eight to 21 and 23 to 33.
The forward-facing business class product (Clase Premier) reclines to a fully-flat bed, which is a great improvement to that of the B767-200ER's, which is only angled lie-flat. They also feature built-in 16-inch, Elite Panasonic HD in-flight entertainment systems, while economy has Eco Monitor touchscreens.
The system will offer all passengers movies and TV shows on-demand, real-time moving maps, a Jukebox application that allows passengers to programme playlists with a choice of the 1,500 songs, iConnect for iPod synching and Seat Chat to communicate with other passengers.
Aeromexico will be competing with British Airways (using a B747) on the London to Mexico City route, and hopes to lure more visitors to the destination as a result of the new aircraft and added connectivity, although Aeromexico does not offer premium economy.
At the moment, 80 per cent of traffic from the UK to Mexico goes to Cancun, but Aeromexico hopes it can encourage travel to its Mexico City hub to feed more traffic on to the 46 domestic destinations it serves with its Aeromexico Connect subsidiary.
Part of this may involve lower prices on the route. A spokesman for the airline said the introduction of the Dreamliner to the London route would mean a decrease in ticket prices "to fill the 72 extra seats on the aircraft and the additional service.”
aeromexico.com
Aeromexico will in April deploy a B787-8 Dreamliner on its Mexico City to London Heathrow route, which is currently operated by a B767.
The airline currently has three Dreamliners in its fleet, the first of which was delivered in August, and is flying these between Mexico City and Tokyo (commenced October), New York (also October) and Paris (earlier this month).
Next year, two more B787-8s will be incorporated into the Aeromexico fleet, from a total of 19 B787s on order (nine B787-8s and ten B787-9s).
Scroll down to view our Flickr slideshow
The new deliveries will allow Aeromexico to introduce the Dreamliner on the Mexico City to Heathrow service in April, replacing the B767-200ER aircraft which doesn't have fully-flat beds in business class or seat-back IFE systems.
The Skyteam member plies the route three times a week, departing London on Mondays, Thursdays and Sundays on AM008 at 2230, arriving the next day at 0525.
The return flight from Mexico City (AM007) leaves at 2235 on Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays, arriving at Heathrow the following day at 1515. In the New Year, the service will be upped to four times weekly.
Aeromexico's two-class B787 accommodates a total of 243 passengers with 32 in business and 211 in economy, which means there is an increase in capacity of 72 seats compared with the B767-200ER (171 seats).
So what can travellers
expect? Business class occupies six rows (one to four, and then five and six in a separate cabin) arranged 2-2-2 (A-C, D-F, G-J), while economy is 3-3-3 (A-B-C, D-E-F, G-H-J) across rows eight to 21 and 23 to 33.The forward-facing business class product (Clase Premier) reclines to a fully-flat bed, which is a great improvement to that of the B767-200ER's, which is only angled lie-flat. They also feature built-in 16-inch, Elite Panasonic HD in-flight entertainment systems, while economy has Eco Monitor touchscreens.
The system will offer all passengers movies and TV shows on-demand, real-time moving maps, a Jukebox application that allows passengers to programme playlists with a choice of the 1,500 songs, iConnect for iPod synching and Seat Chat to communicate with other passengers.
Aeromexico will be competing with British Airways (using a B747) on the London to Mexico City route, and hopes to lure more visitors
to the destination as a result of the new aircraft and added connectivity, although Aeromexico does not offer premium economy.At the moment, 80 per cent of traffic from the UK to Mexico goes to Cancun, but Aeromexico hopes it can encourage travel
to its Mexico City hub to feed more traffic on to the 46 domestic destinations it serves with its Aeromexico Connect subsidiary.Part of this may involve lower prices on the route. A spokesman for the airline said the introduction of the Dreamliner to the London route would mean a decrease in ticket prices "to fill the 72 extra seats on the aircraft and the additional service.”
aeromexico.com
Il sito b787register.co.uk indica ora come destinati a Rwandair due esemplari del 2011 in storage da allora in attesa di retrofit (attualmente in livrea RAM):
http://b787register.co.uk/airframe/airframe_new.php?ln=17
http://b787register.co.uk/airframe/airframe_new.php?ln=19
Ambedue questi aerei fanno parte dei terrible teens, le macchine con numero seriale dal 10 al 19 destinate inizialmente ad ANA, LAN e RAM ma rifiutate da quei vettori per i problemi di peso e per le profonde modifiche necessarie per adeguarle agli standard di produzione e certificazione: con questa vendita (se confermata), Boeing avrebbe piazzato tutti i terrible teens: 2 a Rwandair, 5 a Lion Air, 3 a Transaero (il quarto per Transaero è l'esemplare 22, anche quello inizialmente destinato ad ANA).
http://b787register.co.uk/airframe/airframe_new.php?ln=17
http://b787register.co.uk/airframe/airframe_new.php?ln=19
Ambedue questi aerei fanno parte dei terrible teens, le macchine con numero seriale dal 10 al 19 destinate inizialmente ad ANA, LAN e RAM ma rifiutate da quei vettori per i problemi di peso e per le profonde modifiche necessarie per adeguarle agli standard di produzione e certificazione: con questa vendita (se confermata), Boeing avrebbe piazzato tutti i terrible teens: 2 a Rwandair, 5 a Lion Air, 3 a Transaero (il quarto per Transaero è l'esemplare 22, anche quello inizialmente destinato ad ANA).
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Pare pero' che il gelido freddo dell'est abbia bloccato in ultima istanza 4 giovani in procinto di sbarco nelle steppe.
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Lunedì scorso ero alla Boeing e ho visto diversi esemplari in test. Nella linea di produzione c'erano 2 ANA e mi sembra 1 QR.
Non c'ho capito una mazza
Immagino che il riferimento sia agli esemplari di Transaero. Nel cercare eventuali notizie al riguardo su Google mi sono imbattuto in un articolo interessante in russo: http://www.ato.ru/content/samolet-boeing-787-uvelichit-rashody-aviakompaniy-aeroflot-i-transaeroIn breve: il CEO di Airclaims CIS, Boris Bychkov, partecipando a una conferenza di assicuratori in campo aerospaziale in Russia, ha fatto due dichiarazioni interessanti.
1) la dispatch reliability del 787 sarebbe ora paragonabile a quella del 777 e 747.
2) La struttura del 787 finirà con l'alterare i criteri di valutazione del rischio da parte degli assicuratori. La riparazione del 787 di Ethiopian è costata, secondo le stime di CIS, fra 20 e 50 milioni di dollari, una cifra chiaramente alta che si aggiunge a tempi di riparazione lunghi. E' quindi verosimile che i premi assicurativi per il 787 siano destinati a non essere competitivi rispetto all'A350 la cui fusoliera è - a differenza del 787 - composta da sezioni di quattro pannelli ciascuna, non da sezioni intere.
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Air Canada on 04DEC13 opened reservations for flights operated by the new Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, scheduled to enter service in Spring 2014. Initially, the Dreamliner’s International operation includes London Heathrow and Zurich for 2-month period, before entering service on Tel Aviv route.
eff 01MAY14 Toronto – London Heathrow 12 weekly (until 29JUN14 from YYZ, until 30JUN14 from LHR)
AC856 YYZ1830 – 0625+1LHR 788 x12
AC848 YYZ2040 – 0835+1LHR 788 D
AC869 LHR0830 – 1115YYZ 788 x23
AC857 LHR1205 – 1450YYZ 788 D
eff 01MAY14 Toronto – Zurich 6 weekly (until 29JUN14 from YYZ, until 30JUN14 form ZRH)
AC878 YYZ1805 – 0750+1ZRH 788 x3
AC879 ZRH1000 – 1250YYZ 788 x4
eff 01JUL14 Toronto – Tel Aviv 1 daily
AC084 YYZ1830 – 1205+1TLV 788 D
AC085 TLV1355 – 1850YYZ 788 D
Air Canada’s Boeing 787 is configured in 20 Business Class, 21 Premium Class and 210 Economy Class Seats.
eff 01MAY14 Toronto – London Heathrow 12 weekly (until 29JUN14 from YYZ, until 30JUN14 from LHR)
AC856 YYZ1830 – 0625+1LHR 788 x12
AC848 YYZ2040 – 0835+1LHR 788 D
AC869 LHR0830 – 1115YYZ 788 x23
AC857 LHR1205 – 1450YYZ 788 D
eff 01MAY14 Toronto – Zurich 6 weekly (until 29JUN14 from YYZ, until 30JUN14 form ZRH)
AC878 YYZ1805 – 0750+1ZRH 788 x3
AC879 ZRH1000 – 1250YYZ 788 x4
eff 01JUL14 Toronto – Tel Aviv 1 daily
AC084 YYZ1830 – 1205+1TLV 788 D
AC085 TLV1355 – 1850YYZ 788 D
Air Canada’s Boeing 787 is configured in 20 Business Class, 21 Premium Class and 210 Economy Class Seats.
Interni del 787 Air Canada:
Air Canada reveals B787 Dreamliner cabin design
Air Canada has unveiled the cabin design and seating that will feature on its Boeing 787 Dreamliner fleet.
The first of the 37 B787s that the national carrier has on order are due for delivery in the spring, and the aircraft will debut on its Toronto to London Heathrow and Zurich routes from May 1 for a two-month period.
A Dreamliner will also operate Air Canada's Toronto to Tel Aviv route from July.
The airline's first delivery of 22 larger capacity 787-9 aircraft is planned for July 2015, while all 37 B787 aircraft are scheduled to be delivered by the end of 2019.
The 251-seat aircraft will include three classes — International Business Class, Premium Economy and Economy.
Business has been revamped and will feature 20 seats, with adjustable headrests that feature a massage function, arranged in a 1-2-1 configuration.
Each seat comes with an "adjustable pneumatic cushion system that can be extended into a fully-flat sleeping position 80 inches in length" and universal power and USB outlets.
The in-flight entertainment system includes a touch handset and the screen is, at 18 inches, the largest offered by a North American airline. Passengers can also enjoy freshly brewed Lavazza espressos and cappuccinos.
Business class: The cabin will feature 20 seats in a 1-2-1 configuration
Each business seat comes can be extended into a fully-flat sleeping position
In premium economy, there will be 21 seats in a 2-3-2 configuration with a 19.5-inch seat width, seven-inch seat recline, and 38 inches of legroom.
Each seat is equipped with an 11-inch enhanced definition entertainment screen, and universal power and USB outlets.
Premium economy passengers will also be offered premium meals and priority check-in and baggage delivery at the airport.
In economy, there will be 210 slimline seats in a 3-3-3 configuration with 31 inches of legroom. Each seat will be equipped with a nine-inch entertainment screen with USB and universal power outlet within arm's reach.
Premium economy will contain 21 seats in a 2-3-2 configuration
The economy cabin will contain 210 slimline seats in a 3-3-3 configuration
Ben Smith, Air Canada's executive vice president and chief commercial officer, said: "We are very excited to introduce completely redesigned seating and cabin amenities that will offer Air Canada customers the very best in comfort and contemporary design.
"With the arrival next spring of our first Boeing 787 Dreamliner, Air Canada continues to renew its international widebody fleet with the next generation of modern and fuel efficient aircraft."
aircanada.com
Video di presentazione del 787 AC quì: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWFTdhN219U
Air Canada reveals B787 Dreamliner cabin design
Air Canada has unveiled the cabin design and seating that will feature on its Boeing 787 Dreamliner fleet.
The first of the 37 B787s that the national carrier has on order are due for delivery in the spring, and the aircraft will debut on its Toronto to London Heathrow and Zurich routes from May 1 for a two-month period.
A Dreamliner will also operate Air Canada's Toronto to Tel Aviv route from July.
The airline's first delivery of 22 larger capacity 787-9 aircraft is planned for July 2015, while all 37 B787 aircraft are scheduled to be delivered by the end of 2019.
The 251-seat aircraft will include three classes — International Business Class, Premium Economy and Economy.
Business has been revamped and will feature 20 seats, with adjustable headrests that feature a massage function, arranged in a 1-2-1 configuration.
Each seat comes with an "adjustable pneumatic cushion system that can be extended into a fully-flat sleeping position 80 inches in length" and universal power and USB outlets.
The in-flight entertainment system includes a touch handset and the screen is, at 18 inches, the largest offered by a North American airline. Passengers can also enjoy freshly brewed Lavazza espressos and cappuccinos.
Business class: The cabin will feature 20 seats in a 1-2-1 configuration
Each business seat comes can be extended into a fully-flat sleeping position
In premium economy, there will be 21 seats in a 2-3-2 configuration with a 19.5-inch seat width, seven-inch seat recline, and 38 inches of legroom.
Each seat is equipped with an 11-inch enhanced definition entertainment screen, and universal power and USB outlets.
Premium economy passengers will also be offered premium meals and priority check-in and baggage delivery at the airport.
In economy, there will be 210 slimline seats in a 3-3-3 configuration with 31 inches of legroom. Each seat will be equipped with a nine-inch entertainment screen with USB and universal power outlet within arm's reach.
Premium economy will contain 21 seats in a 2-3-2 configuration
The economy cabin will contain 210 slimline seats in a 3-3-3 configuration
Ben Smith, Air Canada's executive vice president and chief commercial officer, said: "We are very excited to introduce completely redesigned seating and cabin amenities that will offer Air Canada customers the very best in comfort and contemporary design.
"With the arrival next spring of our first Boeing 787 Dreamliner, Air Canada continues to renew its international widebody fleet with the next generation of modern and fuel efficient aircraft."
aircanada.com
Video di presentazione del 787 AC quì: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWFTdhN219U
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05DEC2013
Finnair (AY, Helsinki Vantaa) has officially signed an agreement with LOT Polish Airlines (LO, Warsaw Chopin) for the lease of one of its five B787-8s, SP-LRE (msn 35939). According to Polish travel portal, pasazer.com, the aircraft will indeed be deployed on Helsinki Vantaa to New York JFK flights with effect from December 27, 2013 until January 3, 2014 though this could be extended until January 10. SP-LRE is the Polish national carrier's youngest Dreamliner having only been delivered in August this year.