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Emirates Begins 2-class A380 Service to Mauritius from May 2016

Emirates earlier this month has introduced 2-class A380 operations on Dubai – Mauritius route, scheduled on daily EK703/704 service, replacing 3-class aircraft. The 615-seater 2-class A380 service is operating from 01MAY16 to 30SEP16, except 06JUL16*.

EK701 DXB0410 – 1045MRU 388 D
EK703 DXB1020 – 1655MRU 388 D

EK702 MRU1610 – 2255DXB 388 D
EK704 MRU2145 – 0425+1DXB 388 D

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MH dismetterà i 380 entro un paio d'anni. Non è una sorpresa, non di meno a Tolosa non saranno felici di avere 6 macchine seminuove a fare concorrenza ai loro potenziali ordini per nuovi aerei.

Malaysia’s Fleet Plans Include A380 Phaseout By 2018

Jun 1, 2016Adrian Schofield | Aviation Daily

DUBLIN—The recent expansion of Malaysia AirlinesAirbusA350 operational commitments means the carrier can not only replace its A380s on London flights, but also can fly the new aircraft on another route.
Christoph Mueller, CEO of Malaysia Airlines Berhad (MAB), said four of the six leased A350s will be used for the carrier’s twice-daily Kuala Lumpur–London flights. The other two aircraft will be used for cover in case of maintenance issues, and to operate an existing Asia-Pacific regional route. Auckland or Tokyo flights are the most likely to be selected Mueller, told Aviation Daily on the sidelines of the IATA annual general meeting here.
An agreement covering the initial four A350s was reached with Air Lease Corp. in 2015, with deliveries due to begin in late 2017. The carrier in May exercised options for two more leased A350s, which are expected to begin arriving in 2018.
The main rationale for ordering A350s was to replace the A380s on London flights, Mueller explained. However, this will not occur immediately. The first few A350s initially will be used on shorter Asian routes, so the carrier can gain more experience with the aircraft’s operation. The airline also does not want a mixed fleet on the London flights, so it will wait until it has four A350s before it allocates them to the route.
MAB will not phaseout A380s one-for-one as the A350s arrive, Mueller said. The airline will need to retain at least four A380s until it has the same number of A350s. However, all of the A380s will leave the fleet by June 2018.
MAB attempted to sell two of its six A380s in 2015, but did not find buyers and so elected to retain the aircraft until the A350s arrive. Mueller said the airline probably will remarket the A380s in about a year. MAB has in-house capability to reconfigure the A380s to meet customer requirements.
The A380s are too large for optimal efficiency on the London route, Mueller noted. However, they are the only aircraft remaining in MAB’s fleet that can operate such a flight.
Mueller believes it is unlikely that any of the A380s will need to be parked before 2018. As well as the London flights, one of the A380s is used almost full-time for charter operations, particularly for Muslims making pilgrimage flights to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
The A380 fleet essentially will be cut to five through April 2017, as they will be undergoing heavy maintenance one at a time. The first aircraft completed this process recently. MAB has activated a parked Boeing 747-400 to cover for the A380 fleet while the maintenance program is underway.
In other fleet developments, MAB has completed cabin reconfiguration on four of its 15A330s. All four were ahead of schedule, and the carrier can probably finish the remainder by October or November, Mueller estimated. The A330s are receiving lie-flat seats in business class.
MAB is due to finish work on a strategic fleet plan within 1–2 months. This will lay out the airline’s fleet strategy for the next 5–6 years. However, Mueller will be leaving the carrier in September. He cited personal reasons when announcing his decision in April.

http://aviationweek.com/iata-agm-2016/malaysia-s-fleet-plans-include-a380-phaseout-2018




 

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A quanto pare nonostante le insistenze di EK, Airbus non intende lanciare in tempi rapidi il 380neo. Le nubi si addensano.

Emirates, Airbus Talks On A380neo ‘Lapsed'

Jun 3, 2016 Jens Flottau |

Talks between Airbus and Emirates about the proposed A380neo have “lapsed," Emirates AirlinePresident Tim Clark said.
“The A380neo would be nice to have, but I cannot force Toulouse to do anything,” Clark told reporters here at the IATAannual general assembly in Dublin. The end of these talks means what at one point looked like a pressing project for Airbus to rescue the A380 will now be put off for the foreseeable future.
However, Airbus Executive Vice President-Strategy and Marketing Kieran Rao said earlier this week that the manufacturer will eventually stretch the A380 and reengine it, although he did not define the timing.
Emirates said it had hoped to switch its second batch of 50 A380s on order to A380neos. The airline also changed engine manufacturers from the Engine Alliance to Rolls-Royce in part to support the plans. But now, Clark said, “I want my 140 (A380s) delivered."
Clark believes that the airport can in the future handle a fleet of up to 130 A380s, and 60 to 70 on the ground at any given time. Concourse C will provide an additional 12 code F contact gates.
Narrowbody operator FlyDubai’s move to the new airport, Dubai World Central (DWC), will also free up many “quite a lot of slots at very juicy times of the day,” Clark noted. Although Emirates will not get all of the slots, the carrier will greatly benefit by securing a large share of them. FlyDubai is expected to move to the new airport at the end of 2017.
Emirates at this point plans to start phasing out its oldest A380s by 2021 after 12-13 years of service. Clark cautioned that the carrier might decide to extend leases in case it can accommodate them and sees sufficient markets.
Emirates will not make a decision about a pending order for either the Boeing 787 or theA350 by the time of this summer’s Farnborough airshow. The carrier has been evaluating the 787-9 and -10 as well as the A350-900. Clark said he was impressed with the performance of the new generation twins. He pointed out that these will allow Emirates to go into smaller markets at much lower costs than those the Boeing 777-300ER can offer.

http://aviationweek.com/commercial-...m=email&elq2=08aa9877c1a7468e903cb9b91ace75c3

 

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MH dismetterà i 380 entro un paio d'anni. Non è una sorpresa, non di meno a Tolosa non saranno felici di avere 6 macchine seminuove a fare concorrenza ai loro potenziali ordini per nuovi aerei.

Malaysia’s Fleet Plans Include A380 Phaseout By 2018

Jun 1, 2016Adrian Schofield | Aviation Daily

DUBLIN—The recent expansion of Malaysia AirlinesAirbusA350 operational commitments means the carrier can not only replace its A380s on London flights, but also can fly the new aircraft on another route.
Christoph Mueller, CEO of Malaysia Airlines Berhad (MAB), said four of the six leased A350s will be used for the carrier’s twice-daily Kuala Lumpur–London flights. The other two aircraft will be used for cover in case of maintenance issues, and to operate an existing Asia-Pacific regional route. Auckland or Tokyo flights are the most likely to be selected Mueller, told Aviation Daily on the sidelines of the IATA annual general meeting here.
An agreement covering the initial four A350s was reached with Air Lease Corp. in 2015, with deliveries due to begin in late 2017. The carrier in May exercised options for two more leased A350s, which are expected to begin arriving in 2018.
The main rationale for ordering A350s was to replace the A380s on London flights, Mueller explained. However, this will not occur immediately. The first few A350s initially will be used on shorter Asian routes, so the carrier can gain more experience with the aircraft’s operation. The airline also does not want a mixed fleet on the London flights, so it will wait until it has four A350s before it allocates them to the route.
MAB will not phaseout A380s one-for-one as the A350s arrive, Mueller said. The airline will need to retain at least four A380s until it has the same number of A350s. However, all of the A380s will leave the fleet by June 2018.
MAB attempted to sell two of its six A380s in 2015, but did not find buyers and so elected to retain the aircraft until the A350s arrive. Mueller said the airline probably will remarket the A380s in about a year. MAB has in-house capability to reconfigure the A380s to meet customer requirements.
The A380s are too large for optimal efficiency on the London route, Mueller noted. However, they are the only aircraft remaining in MAB’s fleet that can operate such a flight.
Mueller believes it is unlikely that any of the A380s will need to be parked before 2018. As well as the London flights, one of the A380s is used almost full-time for charter operations, particularly for Muslims making pilgrimage flights to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
The A380 fleet essentially will be cut to five through April 2017, as they will be undergoing heavy maintenance one at a time. The first aircraft completed this process recently. MAB has activated a parked Boeing 747-400 to cover for the A380 fleet while the maintenance program is underway.
In other fleet developments, MAB has completed cabin reconfiguration on four of its 15A330s. All four were ahead of schedule, and the carrier can probably finish the remainder by October or November, Mueller estimated. The A330s are receiving lie-flat seats in business class.
MAB is due to finish work on a strategic fleet plan within 1–2 months. This will lay out the airline’s fleet strategy for the next 5–6 years. However, Mueller will be leaving the carrier in September. He cited personal reasons when announcing his decision in April.

http://aviationweek.com/iata-agm-2016/malaysia-s-fleet-plans-include-a380-phaseout-2018





Se fossi in EK tenterei di portarmeli a casa per un tozzo di pane.
A parte loro forse solo TK potrebbe prenderseli in carico concretamente in questo momento.
 

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I motori/apparati sono uguali?
In caso negativo non so se gli conviene prendersi qualche macchina diversa dalle altre, dovrebbe organizzare una catena logistica solo per loro..
 

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Airbus could redesign world's largest plane to increase capacity

Published on: Friday, June, 3, 2016, 02:13 PM
Airbus has been considering redesigning the A380s grand stairway between two double-decker aircraft's levels to increase the passenger capacity and make the plane more attractive to its operators, as the sales of the plane continue to struggle.

Currently, A380 superjumbo is the world's largest passenger plane with capacity for up 544 passengers in a four-class configuration. (853 seats in single class configuration.) The plane's stairway has been designed to reminiscent of those from an ocean cruise ships and looks stunning.


However, the plane manufacturer noticed, that passengers do not feel the need to walk between the main deck and the upper level during the journeys and the stairway could be redesigned to accommodate as many as 60 passengers without the reduction of the width of seats or the aisle. The passengers would be seated in a 3-5-3 setting, instead of the current 3-4-3 setting. In addition, the crew rest area could be redesigned to create more room.

The profit margin of the Airbus A380 remains extremely low and the plane manufacturer is barely breaking even, therefore it is exploring options to making the aircraft more attractive to the carriers. As of April 2016, there have been 319 orders for A380 aircraft. In 2015, Airbus delivered 27 A380s, assembling slightly more than 2 aircraft per month, while the assembly rate is expected to decline to 1.7 starting in 2017.

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However, the plane manufacturer noticed, that passengers do not feel the need to walk between the main deck and the upper level during the journeys and the stairway could be redesigned to accommodate as many as 60 passengers without the reduction of the width of seats or the aisle.

Eliminare la scala interna andando a creare due cabine separate non mi sembra una scelta sensata, se ad esempio capitasse per ragioni di sicurezza di dover spostare un pax da un piano all' altro? Anche i crew sarebbero bloccati senza possibilità di muoversi, inoltre non tutti gli aeroporti sono attrezzati con finger a 2 piani per imbarcare separatamente.
 

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Eliminare la scala interna andando a creare due cabine separate non mi sembra una scelta sensata, se ad esempio capitasse per ragioni di sicurezza di dover spostare un pax da un piano all' altro? Anche i crew sarebbero bloccati senza possibilità di muoversi, inoltre non tutti gli aeroporti sono attrezzati con finger a 2 piani per imbarcare separatamente.
il progetto si riferisce alle scala posteriore, quindi comunque rimarrebbe quella anteriore... non mi sembra una cattiva idea ;)
 

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Eliminare la scala interna andando a creare due cabine separate non mi sembra una scelta sensata, se ad esempio capitasse per ragioni di sicurezza di dover spostare un pax da un piano all' altro? Anche i crew sarebbero bloccati senza possibilità di muoversi, inoltre non tutti gli aeroporti sono attrezzati con finger a 2 piani per imbarcare separatamente.
Volendo fare l'avvocato del diavolo c'e' sempre la scala posteriore (almeno mi sembra di ricordare che la 'grand staircase' sia quella davanti
 

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Non sono d'accordo. Ci possono essere situazioni estreme (dirottamento, incendio, atterraggio di emergenza) nelle quali avere una scala ad ogni estremità potrebbe significare salvare molte vite.
 

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Interessanti dichiarazioni di Tim Clark.

IATA: Emirates downbeat on chances of early A380neo launch


  • 06 JUNE, 2016
  • BY: MAX KINGSLEY-JONES
  • DUBLIN
Emirates Airline president Tim Clark does not envisage any quick decision from Airbus regarding the launch of a re-engined A380 and is more concerned about the long-term prospects for the current variant.

Speaking during the IATA AGM in Dublin, Clark said discussions betweenEmirates and Airbus regarding the A380neo had "kinda lapsed, I'm afraid".
As far as convincing Airbus to go ahead with the upgrade, Clark says: "I can't force Toulouse to do anything. We have a contract for 140 A380s that we will take – Neo or no Neo. The Neo would be nice to have. My main concern is that they would stop producing the [current] aeroplane."
Emirates has 79 A380s in service and is set to receive its 100th aircraft in June next year. Clark indicates that the airline could begin to retire its early aircraft in around five years' time.
"Delta Alpha [the first A380 delivered to Emirates] is due to go out in 2021," says Clark. "Then as they come up to the same 12-13 year life, we will drop them out. Or we could extend them."
Meanwhile, Clark confirms that Emirates is evaluating whether to introduce a premium-economy cabin into its fleet.
"We'll do it at a time that we think is right," he says. "It's not something that can be done overnight. Will we be there at some point? Yes, I think we will, but I'm not prepared to say when at the moment."

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...-downbeat-on-chances-of-early-a380neo-426068/
 

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Emirates Places A380 on Dubai - Auckland Nonstop from late-Oct 2016

Emirates starting 30OCT16 is increasing capacity on Dubai – Auckland nonstop service, as it plans to switch operational aircraft from Boeing 777-200LR to Airbus A380, with 3-class configuration. Reservation for this world’s longest A380 operating nonstop route is available via the GDS at time this post goes to press.

EK448 DXB1005 – 1110+1AKL 388 D
EK449 AKL2115 – 0535+1DXB 388 D

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Airbus A380: The Death Watch Begins



Last week saw an astonishing moment of frankness from the A380’s biggest customer. Tim Clark, President of Emirates, told Bloomberg that not only had discussions on a new re-engined A380neo version of Airbus’s 525-seat jet “kind of lapsed,” but that his “main concern is that they stop producing the plane.”

This was the first intimation that sudden death is a possibility for the troubled super jumbo. And the numbers highlight this risk.

It has been years since there was any significant commercial demand for the A380, aside from Emirates steadily growing its position to 142 orders. In April, Airbus executives admitted that output in 2017 could be as low as 20 aircraft. This is far below the 30 aircraft needed for annual recurring breakeven (this excludes program nonrecurring costs; there is no way to even begin to recover the $25-30 billion or so invested in the development of this aircraft).

Plummeting output reflects a creaky order book. Emirates still has 65 outstanding orders, on top of the 77 jets it has already taken. In theory, there are another 67 A380 orders on backlog. But many of the remaining jets have little or no chance of being delivered. Qantas’s remaining eight planes have been deferred indefinitely. Ten “undisclosed customer” orders are basically dead. Virgin Atlantic’s ever-deferred order for six is basically dead too. Amedeo, a speculative and poorly conceived leasing venture, will not take any of its 20 orders.

All told, we can only identify 18 truly firm non-Emirates A380 orders on backlog. Clearly, Emirates will need to do the heavy lifting in terms of line program sustainment.

Emirates took its first A380 in 2008, with 72 delivered through the end of 2015. That’s an average of nine per year. But as demand elsewhere has vanished, Emirates has been forced to ramp up its intake. In 2015, Emirates took 14 of the 27 A380s delivered.

How long can this keep up? Emirates has just reported its first annual sales decline in a decade. Its load factor dropped 3.1 points to 76.5%. Its yield fell 10%. Ramping up capacity hardly seems like the right move now.

Meanwhile, Emirates has ordered 150 Boeing 777-9Xs, with deliveries starting in 2020. This jet has the same range as the A380, more belly cargo, just 25% fewer seats (the discounted ones, of course) and has two fewer engines. They’re more modern engines, too.

Thus, the question becomes, how long is Airbus willing to lose money, particularly when there’s no doubt about the ultimate outcome? Assuming that next year’s rate of 20 isn’t too ruinous, and assuming that Emirates can keep taking 14 per year (despite declining traffic growth rates and falling load factors), that means Airbus can sustain about three more years of production (14 Emirates planes per year, plus six for other customers). But then again, since Airbus is losing money on all of these planes, Tim Clark is correct to worry that Airbus could simply end the program at any time.

Teal Group has always provided the most pessimistic A380 forecast. But it turns out we may have been much more optimistic than reality.

(Richard Aboulafia - Forbes)
 

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TW 843, per curiosità un giorno se vuoi ci spiegherai perchè hai tanto odio per l'A380, cosa ti ha fatto di male questo aereo? ;)

E' vero ne hanno venduti molto meno del previsto ma che piaccia o meno questo aereo comunque lascerà il suo segno nella storia dell' aviazione.
Inoltre chissà perchè nessuno parla mai del flop totale del 747-800, che è stato molto peggiore in termine di vendite
 

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Nessun "odio" per l'A380 da parte mia. Tra l'altro in generale i tifosi pro o contro un aeroporto, un aereo, una compgnia li trovo patetici.

Il mio è solo un punto di vista che ho avuto sin dall'inizio: il programma è un flop colossale, voluto dalla politica europea solo per una grandeur. Da un punto di vista economico è in baratro senza fondo.

E i fatti dopo anni mi stanno dando ragione.
Tutto qui.
 

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TW 843, per curiosità un giorno se vuoi ci spiegherai perchè hai tanto odio per l'A380, cosa ti ha fatto di male questo aereo? ;)

E' vero ne hanno venduti molto meno del previsto ma che piaccia o meno questo aereo comunque lascerà il suo segno nella storia dell' aviazione.
Inoltre chissà perchè nessuno parla mai del flop totale del 747-800, che è stato molto peggiore in termine di vendite
Gliel'ho chiesto anch'io tempo fa, ma non mi ha mai risposto.
So che è un lavoro certosino, ma se cercate nel forum trovate tutti i vari interventi in cui si spiegavano nel dettaglio i "contro" del cicciobus.

Anzi, la maggiorparte della roba la troverete proprio in questo thread, che essendo stato avviato nel 2009 è un po' una memoria storica del progetto A380.
 

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A me però sembra un po' irrituale l'uscita di Clark. Visto che probabilmente in Airbus è ancora tabù dichiarare che il 380 è un programma a rischio (lo fece un dirigente qualche tempo fa, subito smentito da tutti), forse è stato demandato al migliore e più interessato cliente del modello il compito di lanciare un grido di allarme abbastanza forte da essere sentito nelle varie cancellerie. Nella speranza che in qualche modo si trovino i fondi per modernizzare l'aereo, operazione senza la quale il progetto non potrà che morire.