United ordina 200 Boeing 737 MAX e 70 Airbus 321 NEO


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United Airlines ‘Schedules’ Flight With Airbus A321neo
BYAARON BAILEY
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The aircraft is scheduled to operate UA1872 between Chicago and Fort Lauderdale.

  • United Airlines has quietly added an Airbus A321neo flight to its inventory, potentially indicating its plans for the future despite not having received the variant yet.
  • The proposed flight is scheduled for July 21st, 2024, between Chicago O'Hare International Airport and Fort Lauderdale International Airport.
  • Deliveries of the A321neo aircraft to United Airlines have been delayed, with some expected to join the fleet in 2024 and the rest in 2025.

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https://simpleflying.com/major-blow...s-boeing-stop-building-max-10s-switch-max-9s/

Major Blow: United Airlines Tells Boeing To Stop Building MAX 10s And To Switch To MAX 9s
The latest announcement came after United had announced it was not expecting any deliveries of the type in coming years.

Summary
  • United Airlines CEO has decided to halt Boeing 737 MAX 10 production in favor of MAX 9 due to certification uncertainties.
  • The airline also expressed interest in swapping MAX 10 orders for Airbus A321neo, signaling a shift in future aircraft deliveries.
  • United previously had 277 MAX 10s on order, but now plans to focus on MAX 9s and potentially Airbus A321s if the economics are right.
United Airlines has officially given up on the Boeing 737 MAX 10, for now. During a conference today, United’s CEO said the airline asked Boeing to stop building the MAX 10s and to build MAX 9s.

Switching the plans
The bad news keeps coming for Boeing, one of the world’s most storied aircraft manufacturers. Recent headlines, such as the Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 door plug blowout and missing documentation regarding the work done on that plane, have certainly not been favorable for Boeing. And today’s remarks from Scott Kirby are a massive statement regarding United's trust, or lack thereof, in the manufacturer.

Earlier today, during the J.P. Morgan Industrials Conference, Kirby, United’s CEO, said the airline had told Boeing to stop making MAX 10s and instead replace those with MAX 9s. In January, after the Alaska Airlines incident, Kirby said that United would need to consider planning a future without the MAX 10, as it is still pending certification. Early this month, Simple Flying reported that those plans had already been made. As of March 1, United was still awaiting 34 MAX 9s, more than half of which it expects to receive this year. At this time, it is unclear how many MAX 10s will be swapped for 9s.

A 10-K filing with the SEC revealed that United had no plans of receiving any MAX 10s between now and after 2025. The filing outlined the deliveries expected in 2024 and 2025, detailing the numbers for its Airbus A321neos, Boeing 787s, and 737 MAX 8s and 9s. United specified that the removal of the MAX 10 from its delivery outlook was due to the unknown certification timeframe for the largest variant of the MAX family.

Today, Kirby said,

We’ve asked Boeing to stop building Max 10s, which they’ve done, for us and start building Max 9s. It’s impossible to say when the Max 10 is going to get certified.

Boeing's woes = Airbus' advantage
In addition to telling Boeing to swap the MAX 10 for the 9, he did confirm reports that United was hoping to swap orders for the MAX 10 for the Airbus A321neo, the newest addition to the airline's fleet. Currently, United's commitment to A321neos totals 126 aircraft, following its second order for 60 planes, placed in October.

We are in the market for A321s, and if we get a deal where the economics work, we’ll do something. If we don’t, we won’t and will wind up with more Max 9s.

United had ordered 277 MAX 10s, more than any other customer, and is set to become the launch customer for the type whenever it is certified. In addition to its 277 aircraft on firm order, it has options for a further 200. However, it's uncertain what this deal would eventually look like.

The first non-prototype MAX 10 has already been painted in a United livery and was seen by Simple Flying during a visit to Boeing's facilities in South Carolina in December 2022. In October 2023, it was unveiled that Boeing's latest ecoDemonstrator was a MAX 10 with a United livery.
Boeing will partner with United Airlines and NASA to test Sustainable Aviation Fuel's (SAF) environmental benefits with an undelivered MAX 10.
 

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Questo è quello che fa una compagnia seria, hanno problemi di mancata consegna e invece di penalizzare i pax cancellando i voli prendono aerei sostitutivi a noleggio. Da mandare in copia a Wizzair e Ryanair che invece per i problemi dei motori e di mancata consegna, tagliano voli a tutto spiano senza nemmeno cercare soluzioni alternative.
 
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Questo è quello che fa una compagnia seria, hanno problemi di mancata consegna e invece di penalizzare i pax cancellando i voli prendono aerei sostitutivi a noleggio. Da mandare in copia a Wizzair e Ryanair che invece per i problemi dei motori e di mancata consegna, tagliano voli a tutto spiano senza nemmeno cercare soluzioni alternative.
Veramente io ho volato un paio di volte con aerei noleggiati da Wizz.
 

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Questo è quello che fa una compagnia seria, hanno problemi di mancata consegna e invece di penalizzare i pax cancellando i voli prendono aerei sostitutivi a noleggio. Da mandare in copia a Wizzair e Ryanair che invece per i problemi dei motori e di mancata consegna, tagliano voli a tutto spiano senza nemmeno cercare soluzioni alternative.
Cesare sono scelte e bisogna vedere se trovi i wet lease disponibili.
 
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Questo è quello che fa una compagnia seria, hanno problemi di mancata consegna e invece di penalizzare i pax cancellando i voli prendono aerei sostitutivi a noleggio. Da mandare in copia a Wizzair e Ryanair che invece per i problemi dei motori e di mancata consegna, tagliano voli a tutto spiano senza nemmeno cercare soluzioni alternative.
A giudicare da quanto scritto su Simple Flying, mi pare di capire che UAL stia semplicemente ordinando aerei in dry lease con contratti di lungo periodo. Non si capisce se stiano prendendo aerei nuovi o usati, ma comunque non sono soluzioni wet lease di breve periodo per sostituire aerei fermi in manutenzione ed evitare di annullare voli, sembrano soluzioni di fleet planning di lungo periodo per continuare a crescere come previsto. Ryanair e Wizzair stanno facendo qualcosa di analogo tenendo in flotta più a lungo del previsto aerei dei quali era prevista la sostituzione (nel caso di Wizz, estendendo lease in essere per i propri mezzi). E anche United e le major americane lo stanno facendo: ci sono A320 e 767 in United che se ne sarebbero dovuti andare anni fa ma sono ancora là a macinare miglia con 30 anni sulle spalle: evidentemente UAL ha raggiunto un punto nel quale ha poche macchine delle quali ritardare ulteriormente la dismissione.
United, con la flotta variegata che ha, ha certamente più alternative di Wizz e Ryan, ambedue monoflotta, ma comunque impiegherà mesi e anni a ricevere e mettere in servizio aerei presi in leasing: anche se fossero vecchi 32S CEO (ce ne sono ancora molti ex Alaska e Virgin America nel deserto) potrebbero volerci mesi/anni per le consegne.
 
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