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*** IAG lancia LEVEL (FLYLEVEL.com) : low cost di lungo raggio ***
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Tecnicamente FR non e' un vero palindromo. RYANAIR al contrario e' RIANAYR anche la pronuncia sarebbe diversa.
(Questa mattina mi sono svegliato molto pignolo)
Secondo Preferente.com dal 2018 stanno considerando di aprire voli anche da FCO. Del resto con la base VY avrebbe più senso di Norwegian a mio avviso.
Foto degli interni: https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/level-new-low-cost-carrier/
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Si nota l'ife nella prima fila, mentre non c'e' differenza tra posti plus/economy.
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Si nota l'ife nella prima fila, mentre non c'e' differenza tra posti plus/economy.
Se ti riferisci a me, da Simon Calder sull'independent che di solito è informato.Ma su quali basi scrivete certe cose?
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel...s-prices-norwegian-lower-rivals-a7639771.html
Se sai altrimenti puoi benissimo smentire.
LEVEL launches four routes from Barcelona base; will Fiumicino and Orly be next?
Probably one of the worst-kept secrets in the business, International Airlines Group (IAG) is launching LEVEL – its new low-cost long-haul airline (LCLH) brand in June 2017, with flights from Barcelona to Los Angeles, Oakland, Buenos Aires and Punta Cana. LEVEL will fly two new 314-seat (293 economy and 21 premium economy seats) A330-200s branded in its own livery (which must have taken at least 10 minutes to devise – while the designer was on a coffee break, and also watching funny YouTube clips of animals falling off furniture), and will be initially operated by Iberia’s flight and cabin crew (flights are currently filed in OAG schedules under IB code too). Frequencies and start dates are as follows, with no departing flights currently on Mondays:
Twice-weekly (Thursdays and Sundays) flights to Los Angeles (LAX) start on 1 June;
Three times (Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays) weekly flights to Oakland (OAK) start on 2 June;
Twice-weekly (Wednesdays and Saturdays) flights to Punta Cana (PUJ) start on 10 June;
Three times (Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays) weekly flights to Buenos Aires Ezeiza (EZE) start on 17 June.
IAG’s decision to launch its own LCLH was primarily to defend one of its back yards from the market disruptor, Norwegian. Interestingly (and surely no coincidence), LEVEL will start its flights from Barcelona to Los Angeles four days before Norwegian, which begins its twice-weekly (Mondays and Fridays) operation on 5 June. Its the same story on the Barcelona-Oakland city pair, as LEVEL launches its flights five days prior to the Scandinavian LCC, which will offer a twice-weekly (Wednesdays and Saturdays) service to the Californian city from 7 June. Also noteworthy, on 6 June Norwegian will also begin twice-weekly (Tuesdays and Thursdays) operations to New York Newark and a twice-weekly (Tuesdays and Saturdays) route to Fort Lauderdale on 22 August.
Vueling network to feed
Willie Walsh, IAG CEO, said: “Barcelona is Vueling’s home base and this will allow customers to connect from Vueling’s extensive European network onto LEVEL’s long-haul flights.” The opportunity for the IAG in-house LCC to feed the new member of the family is immense, as Vueling will offer a network of 124 non-stop destinations from its biggest base in the peak of S17. Following on from that in this analysis, anna.aero has taken a look at not just the competitive landscape within Spain, but also across Europe, for seats to these four destinations this summer.
Route Capacity from Spain – carrier (WF)
Los Angeles Madrid – Iberia (7); Barcelona – Norwegian (2)
Oakland (San Francisco) Barcelona – Norwegian (2)
Punta Cana Madrid – Air Europa (4), Evelop Airlines (3), Wamos Air (3)
Buenos Aires Madrid – Iberia (14), Aerolineas Argentinas (7), Air Europa (7); Barcelona – Aerolineas Argentinas (5)
Source: OAG Schedules Analyser w/c 1 Jul. WF = Weekly Frequencies.
Perhaps LEVEL has missed an opportunity, as there are currently no services from anywhere in Spain to San Francisco. It could have launched services to San Francisco itself, rather than using the Californian city in its promotional material when referring to the Oakland route (although ‘good for OAK’ in pulling off another “best way to San Francisco Bay” success). Despite being the biggest US route in terms of weekly seats from Spain, New York (from Madrid 10,290 weekly seats to JFK and 1,498 weekly seats to Newark; from Barcelona 3,857 weekly seats to JFK and 2,276 weekly seats to Newark) has been overlooked by LEVEL (along with other bigger markets including Miami, Boston and Chicago O’ Hare) in favour of starting services to Los Angeles and Oakland.
LAX has most to lose
Of the four markets where there is potential for Vueling/LEVEL to steal connecting traffic from other airports, the most potential can be found in the volumes heading towards Los Angeles, as it has 218 weekly frequencies on offer from 20 European airports (not including the Spanish airports above). This is followed by Oakland/San Francisco (178 weekly departures from 19 airports), then Punta Cana (38 from 12) and finally by Buenos Aires (36 from 5).
Route Capacity from rest of Europe – airport (WF)
Los Angeles London Heathrow (63); Paris CDG (29); Amsterdam (14); Frankfurt (14); Dublin (11); Stockholm Arlanda (10); Zurich (7); Munich (7); Rome Fiumicino (7); Istanbul Atatürk (7); London Gatwick (7); Düsseldorf (7); Reykjavik/Keflavik (7), Moscow Sheremetyevo (7); Vienna (6); Warsaw Chopin (4); Berlin Tegel (3); Copenhagen (3); Manchester (3); Oslo Gardermoen (2)
Oakland (San Francisco) London Heathrow (SFO) (38); Paris CDG (SFO) (24); Frankfurt (SFO) (21); Munich (SFO) (14); Amsterdam (SFO) (10); London Gatwick (9); Düsseldorf (SFO) (7); Istanbul Atatürk (SFO) (7); Zurich (SFO) (7); Copenhagen (SFO) (7); Dublin (SFO) (7); Reykjavik/Keflavik (SFO (7); Manchester (SFO) (5); Berlin Tegel (SFO) (4); Helsinki (SFO) (3); Stockholm Arlanda (3); Oslo Gardermoen (2); Copenhagen (2); Terceira (1)
Punta Cana Paris CDG (6); London Gatwick (6); Manchester (4); Brussels (3); Cologne Bonn (3); Düsseldorf (3); Frankfurt (3); Lisbon (2); Munich (2); Birmingham (2); Paris Orly (2); Zurich (2)
Buenos Aires Rome Fiumicino (14); Frankfurt (7); London Heathrow (7); Paris CDG (7); Amsterdam (5)
Only three airports have services to all four destinations – namely Paris CDG, Frankfurt and Amsterdam – with London having all four city pairs if flights from its Heathrow and Gatwick airports are combined. Aside from Norwegian’s long-haul operations, only two other LCLH carriers are flying on any of these city pairs, with WOW air operating to Los Angeles and San Francisco, as well as Eurowings offering Punta Cana three times weekly from its Cologne Bonn base. With the majority of other services being flown by legacy airlines, they are joined by a handful of European leisure carriers like Condor, XL Airways France, Thomson Airways, Thomas Cook Airlines and others to vary the airline business models on these sectors still further.
Taking it to the next LEVEL (base)
What was made clear in all the media spin was that although Barcelona has been chosen as the first European city for the launch of IAG’s new operation, LEVEL will look to expand its flights from other European cities. “This is just the start. We’re really excited about the opportunities for expansion and we plan to bring LEVEL to other European destinations,” suggests Walsh. Looking at the airline’s biggest bases, its operations at Rome Fiumicino and Paris Orly would appear to be the most likely options for LEVEL to expand if it wants to ensure feed from existing Vueling services. The Italian hub presently has a network of 50 non-stop destinations, whereas Orly is significantly smaller with 18, despite its weekly seats not being that much lower, according to OAG schedules data for week commencing 1 July.
In terms of linking Fiumicino to LEVEL’s initial four destinations, both Los Angeles and Ezeiza are already served, leaving opportunities to Oakland/San Francisco and Punta Cana for the LCLH carrier to contemplate. When considering these routes at Orly, only one is presently served from France’s second busiest airport, that being Air Caraïbes’ twice-weekly service to Punta Cana. As detailed before, all four routes are available across town at Paris CDG. Of course LEVEL may decide to start a completely different group of routes from these two potential airports based on the respective market opportunities at each, but this would signify a switch in strategy from other LCLH airlines which tend to ‘join-the-dots’ from its hubs to its destination cities, just as Norwegian has done with its pan-European long-haul network. anna.aero will bring you the news and analysis first when Walsh’s words come to fruition.
http://www.anna.aero/2017/03/22/level-launches-four-routes-barcelona-base-will-fiumicino-orly-next/
Probably one of the worst-kept secrets in the business, International Airlines Group (IAG) is launching LEVEL – its new low-cost long-haul airline (LCLH) brand in June 2017, with flights from Barcelona to Los Angeles, Oakland, Buenos Aires and Punta Cana. LEVEL will fly two new 314-seat (293 economy and 21 premium economy seats) A330-200s branded in its own livery (which must have taken at least 10 minutes to devise – while the designer was on a coffee break, and also watching funny YouTube clips of animals falling off furniture), and will be initially operated by Iberia’s flight and cabin crew (flights are currently filed in OAG schedules under IB code too). Frequencies and start dates are as follows, with no departing flights currently on Mondays:
Twice-weekly (Thursdays and Sundays) flights to Los Angeles (LAX) start on 1 June;
Three times (Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays) weekly flights to Oakland (OAK) start on 2 June;
Twice-weekly (Wednesdays and Saturdays) flights to Punta Cana (PUJ) start on 10 June;
Three times (Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays) weekly flights to Buenos Aires Ezeiza (EZE) start on 17 June.
IAG’s decision to launch its own LCLH was primarily to defend one of its back yards from the market disruptor, Norwegian. Interestingly (and surely no coincidence), LEVEL will start its flights from Barcelona to Los Angeles four days before Norwegian, which begins its twice-weekly (Mondays and Fridays) operation on 5 June. Its the same story on the Barcelona-Oakland city pair, as LEVEL launches its flights five days prior to the Scandinavian LCC, which will offer a twice-weekly (Wednesdays and Saturdays) service to the Californian city from 7 June. Also noteworthy, on 6 June Norwegian will also begin twice-weekly (Tuesdays and Thursdays) operations to New York Newark and a twice-weekly (Tuesdays and Saturdays) route to Fort Lauderdale on 22 August.
Vueling network to feed
Willie Walsh, IAG CEO, said: “Barcelona is Vueling’s home base and this will allow customers to connect from Vueling’s extensive European network onto LEVEL’s long-haul flights.” The opportunity for the IAG in-house LCC to feed the new member of the family is immense, as Vueling will offer a network of 124 non-stop destinations from its biggest base in the peak of S17. Following on from that in this analysis, anna.aero has taken a look at not just the competitive landscape within Spain, but also across Europe, for seats to these four destinations this summer.
Route Capacity from Spain – carrier (WF)
Los Angeles Madrid – Iberia (7); Barcelona – Norwegian (2)
Oakland (San Francisco) Barcelona – Norwegian (2)
Punta Cana Madrid – Air Europa (4), Evelop Airlines (3), Wamos Air (3)
Buenos Aires Madrid – Iberia (14), Aerolineas Argentinas (7), Air Europa (7); Barcelona – Aerolineas Argentinas (5)
Source: OAG Schedules Analyser w/c 1 Jul. WF = Weekly Frequencies.
Perhaps LEVEL has missed an opportunity, as there are currently no services from anywhere in Spain to San Francisco. It could have launched services to San Francisco itself, rather than using the Californian city in its promotional material when referring to the Oakland route (although ‘good for OAK’ in pulling off another “best way to San Francisco Bay” success). Despite being the biggest US route in terms of weekly seats from Spain, New York (from Madrid 10,290 weekly seats to JFK and 1,498 weekly seats to Newark; from Barcelona 3,857 weekly seats to JFK and 2,276 weekly seats to Newark) has been overlooked by LEVEL (along with other bigger markets including Miami, Boston and Chicago O’ Hare) in favour of starting services to Los Angeles and Oakland.
LAX has most to lose
Of the four markets where there is potential for Vueling/LEVEL to steal connecting traffic from other airports, the most potential can be found in the volumes heading towards Los Angeles, as it has 218 weekly frequencies on offer from 20 European airports (not including the Spanish airports above). This is followed by Oakland/San Francisco (178 weekly departures from 19 airports), then Punta Cana (38 from 12) and finally by Buenos Aires (36 from 5).
Route Capacity from rest of Europe – airport (WF)
Los Angeles London Heathrow (63); Paris CDG (29); Amsterdam (14); Frankfurt (14); Dublin (11); Stockholm Arlanda (10); Zurich (7); Munich (7); Rome Fiumicino (7); Istanbul Atatürk (7); London Gatwick (7); Düsseldorf (7); Reykjavik/Keflavik (7), Moscow Sheremetyevo (7); Vienna (6); Warsaw Chopin (4); Berlin Tegel (3); Copenhagen (3); Manchester (3); Oslo Gardermoen (2)
Oakland (San Francisco) London Heathrow (SFO) (38); Paris CDG (SFO) (24); Frankfurt (SFO) (21); Munich (SFO) (14); Amsterdam (SFO) (10); London Gatwick (9); Düsseldorf (SFO) (7); Istanbul Atatürk (SFO) (7); Zurich (SFO) (7); Copenhagen (SFO) (7); Dublin (SFO) (7); Reykjavik/Keflavik (SFO (7); Manchester (SFO) (5); Berlin Tegel (SFO) (4); Helsinki (SFO) (3); Stockholm Arlanda (3); Oslo Gardermoen (2); Copenhagen (2); Terceira (1)
Punta Cana Paris CDG (6); London Gatwick (6); Manchester (4); Brussels (3); Cologne Bonn (3); Düsseldorf (3); Frankfurt (3); Lisbon (2); Munich (2); Birmingham (2); Paris Orly (2); Zurich (2)
Buenos Aires Rome Fiumicino (14); Frankfurt (7); London Heathrow (7); Paris CDG (7); Amsterdam (5)
Only three airports have services to all four destinations – namely Paris CDG, Frankfurt and Amsterdam – with London having all four city pairs if flights from its Heathrow and Gatwick airports are combined. Aside from Norwegian’s long-haul operations, only two other LCLH carriers are flying on any of these city pairs, with WOW air operating to Los Angeles and San Francisco, as well as Eurowings offering Punta Cana three times weekly from its Cologne Bonn base. With the majority of other services being flown by legacy airlines, they are joined by a handful of European leisure carriers like Condor, XL Airways France, Thomson Airways, Thomas Cook Airlines and others to vary the airline business models on these sectors still further.
Taking it to the next LEVEL (base)
What was made clear in all the media spin was that although Barcelona has been chosen as the first European city for the launch of IAG’s new operation, LEVEL will look to expand its flights from other European cities. “This is just the start. We’re really excited about the opportunities for expansion and we plan to bring LEVEL to other European destinations,” suggests Walsh. Looking at the airline’s biggest bases, its operations at Rome Fiumicino and Paris Orly would appear to be the most likely options for LEVEL to expand if it wants to ensure feed from existing Vueling services. The Italian hub presently has a network of 50 non-stop destinations, whereas Orly is significantly smaller with 18, despite its weekly seats not being that much lower, according to OAG schedules data for week commencing 1 July.
In terms of linking Fiumicino to LEVEL’s initial four destinations, both Los Angeles and Ezeiza are already served, leaving opportunities to Oakland/San Francisco and Punta Cana for the LCLH carrier to contemplate. When considering these routes at Orly, only one is presently served from France’s second busiest airport, that being Air Caraïbes’ twice-weekly service to Punta Cana. As detailed before, all four routes are available across town at Paris CDG. Of course LEVEL may decide to start a completely different group of routes from these two potential airports based on the respective market opportunities at each, but this would signify a switch in strategy from other LCLH airlines which tend to ‘join-the-dots’ from its hubs to its destination cities, just as Norwegian has done with its pan-European long-haul network. anna.aero will bring you the news and analysis first when Walsh’s words come to fruition.
http://www.anna.aero/2017/03/22/level-launches-four-routes-barcelona-base-will-fiumicino-orly-next/
Vueling dà il via alla vendita dei biglietti di LEVEL sul suo sitovueling.com
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Grazie ai voli diretti di Vueling verso Barcellona, i passeggeri in partenza dall’Italia possono avere accesso a tutto il network a lungo raggio di LEVEL
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Milano, 28 aprile 2017. –*Vueling*da oggi offre la possibilità di acquistare i biglietti della compagnia aerea LEVEL direttamente dal proprio sito*vueling.com, che si aggiunge a quello della compagnia*flylevel.com.
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I passeggeri italiani di Vueling in partenza*dai 16 aeroporti nazionali dove opera la compagniapossono raggiungere l’hub di Barcellona con un volo diretto per avere così accesso a tutto il network a lungo raggio di LEVEL, basata nel capoluogo catalano.
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Il primo volo di LEVEL decollerà il primo giugno 2017 da Barcellona verso*Los Angeles, e sarà seguito da quello per*San Francisco*(Oakland) il 2 giugno,*Punta Cana*il 10 giugno e*Buenos Aires*il 17 giugno.
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Circo il 50 per cento degli utenti che visitano il sito della compagnia*flylevel.com*hanno tra i 18 ed i 34 anni ed il 60 per cento del totale vi accede attraverso mobile.
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Vueling
Vueling*ha dato il via alle sue operazioni in Italia nel 2004.Per la stagione estiva 2017, Vueling opera 88 rotte in partenza da 16 aeroporti italiani, incluso Roma Fiumicino, secondo hub internazionale della compagnia aerea. In tutto il suo network, Vueling sarà operativa complessivamente con*più di 346 rotte verso più di 135 destinazioni in tutta Europa, Medio Oriente e Africa. La compagnia conta su una flotta di 108 aerei con 20 basi operative. Per ulteriori informazioni*www.vueling.com.
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LEVEL
LEVEL è la nuova compagnia aerea low cost a lungo raggio del gruppo IAG che darà il via alle sue operazioni in giugno 2017. Inizialmente, la compagnia opererà con due aerei A330 da Barcellona verso Los Angeles, San Francisco (Oakland), Buenos Aires e Punta Cana. LEVEL propone un nuovo approccio moderno per volare a prezzi sempre più accessibili. I suoi clienti, inoltre, potranno accumulare e utilizzare i punti Avios – la valuta di fedeltà delle compagnie aree del gruppo IAG. LEVEL è la quinta compagnia area di IAG insieme ad Aer Lingus, British Airways, Iberia e Vueling.
Inviato dal mio M52_Red_Note utilizzando Tapatalk
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Grazie ai voli diretti di Vueling verso Barcellona, i passeggeri in partenza dall’Italia possono avere accesso a tutto il network a lungo raggio di LEVEL
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Milano, 28 aprile 2017. –*Vueling*da oggi offre la possibilità di acquistare i biglietti della compagnia aerea LEVEL direttamente dal proprio sito*vueling.com, che si aggiunge a quello della compagnia*flylevel.com.
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I passeggeri italiani di Vueling in partenza*dai 16 aeroporti nazionali dove opera la compagniapossono raggiungere l’hub di Barcellona con un volo diretto per avere così accesso a tutto il network a lungo raggio di LEVEL, basata nel capoluogo catalano.
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Il primo volo di LEVEL decollerà il primo giugno 2017 da Barcellona verso*Los Angeles, e sarà seguito da quello per*San Francisco*(Oakland) il 2 giugno,*Punta Cana*il 10 giugno e*Buenos Aires*il 17 giugno.
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Circo il 50 per cento degli utenti che visitano il sito della compagnia*flylevel.com*hanno tra i 18 ed i 34 anni ed il 60 per cento del totale vi accede attraverso mobile.
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Vueling
Vueling*ha dato il via alle sue operazioni in Italia nel 2004.Per la stagione estiva 2017, Vueling opera 88 rotte in partenza da 16 aeroporti italiani, incluso Roma Fiumicino, secondo hub internazionale della compagnia aerea. In tutto il suo network, Vueling sarà operativa complessivamente con*più di 346 rotte verso più di 135 destinazioni in tutta Europa, Medio Oriente e Africa. La compagnia conta su una flotta di 108 aerei con 20 basi operative. Per ulteriori informazioni*www.vueling.com.
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LEVEL
LEVEL è la nuova compagnia aerea low cost a lungo raggio del gruppo IAG che darà il via alle sue operazioni in giugno 2017. Inizialmente, la compagnia opererà con due aerei A330 da Barcellona verso Los Angeles, San Francisco (Oakland), Buenos Aires e Punta Cana. LEVEL propone un nuovo approccio moderno per volare a prezzi sempre più accessibili. I suoi clienti, inoltre, potranno accumulare e utilizzare i punti Avios – la valuta di fedeltà delle compagnie aree del gruppo IAG. LEVEL è la quinta compagnia area di IAG insieme ad Aer Lingus, British Airways, Iberia e Vueling.
Inviato dal mio M52_Red_Note utilizzando Tapatalk
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Level sembra essere anche il grimaldello attraverso il quale IAG sta tentando di dare una sforbiciata al costo del lavoro.
Spain's Iberia plans for 1000 staff redundancies
Iberia (IB, Madrid Barajas) could lay off 1000 staff by mid-2017, reports Reuters, citing Chief Executive Officer Luis Gallego. The outcome will depend on discussions with unions in the near future. Gallego made the comments while on a trip to Sao Paulo, Brazil.
As previously reported, Iberia recently signed an agreement with its unions allowing it to create a new low-cost long-haul carrier. The project had met with resistance from cabin crew who were concerned that the Barcelona El Prat-based carrier would cannibalise Iberia's Madrid Barajas traffic.
Cabin crews have also raised concerns about Iberia's new configuration for the A340-600s it will deploy on its North American flights, which eliminates some Business Class seeats in favour of a new Premium Economy class. STICPLA (El Sindicato Independiente de Tripulantes de Cabina de Pasajeros de Líneas Aéreas) says that the aircraft will carry more passengers with fewer staff.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/55497-spains-iberia-plans-for-1000-staff-redundancies
Spain's Iberia plans for 1000 staff redundancies
Iberia (IB, Madrid Barajas) could lay off 1000 staff by mid-2017, reports Reuters, citing Chief Executive Officer Luis Gallego. The outcome will depend on discussions with unions in the near future. Gallego made the comments while on a trip to Sao Paulo, Brazil.
As previously reported, Iberia recently signed an agreement with its unions allowing it to create a new low-cost long-haul carrier. The project had met with resistance from cabin crew who were concerned that the Barcelona El Prat-based carrier would cannibalise Iberia's Madrid Barajas traffic.
Cabin crews have also raised concerns about Iberia's new configuration for the A340-600s it will deploy on its North American flights, which eliminates some Business Class seeats in favour of a new Premium Economy class. STICPLA (El Sindicato Independiente de Tripulantes de Cabina de Pasajeros de Líneas Aéreas) says that the aircraft will carry more passengers with fewer staff.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/55497-spains-iberia-plans-for-1000-staff-redundancies
Flyflyfly
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Sforbiciata?
Sempre meno devono prendere questi piloti ed assistente di volo? Se c'è una cosa che dovrebbe proprio restar invariata son proprio gli stipendi del personale. Ma come in tutti i settori del lavoro, anche questi stipendi non fan piu gola...Quello che era un lavoro a cui molti ambivano (piloti e assistenti di volo) ora è accessibile a tutti perchè pagato una miseria e non richiesta più la professionalità di un tempo. Com'era anni fa? La sicurezza prima di tutto? Mi sembra che ora si guardi altro.
Sempre meno devono prendere questi piloti ed assistente di volo? Se c'è una cosa che dovrebbe proprio restar invariata son proprio gli stipendi del personale. Ma come in tutti i settori del lavoro, anche questi stipendi non fan piu gola...Quello che era un lavoro a cui molti ambivano (piloti e assistenti di volo) ora è accessibile a tutti perchè pagato una miseria e non richiesta più la professionalità di un tempo. Com'era anni fa? La sicurezza prima di tutto? Mi sembra che ora si guardi altro.
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Chiedo perdono, ma non penso che la retribuzione del pilota sia direttamente proporzionale alla sicurezza del volo...
Faccio fatica a credere che un aereo sia più o meno sicuro se il pilota guadagna 10000 Euro netti al mese o solo 7500 (emolumenti che, nel mondo reale, sono esclusivo appannaggio di dirigenti), Los Rodeos docet...
Flyflyfly
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probabilmente il pilota no. Ma prendere ragazzini alla prima esperienza e quindi con poche ore di volo che si accontentano di poco pur di volare e affiancarlo a comandanti ovviamente piu esperti ma magari fatti crescere troppo in fretta, ecco che la sicurezza può e dico può (ovviamente può anche essere giovane ma estremamente professionale) essere messa in secondo piano.
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A mia memoria gli ultimi disastri aerei dovuti indiscutibilmente ai piloti sono avvenuti in due compagnie (Air France con AF447 e LuftHansa con 4U9525) che i piloti li pagano bene...
E' un antico discorso, è un lavoro nel quale serve professionalità ed attenzione, ma gli stipendi dipendono DAL MERCATO, è ora di capirlo una volta per tutte! Una volta fare il pilota era molto difficile, ce ne erano pochi (bravi ancora meno) e per accaparrarseli bisognava spendere; ora iniziare una carriera è molto più facile (dispendioso, ma meno complicato), c'è molta più concorrenza e, come è logico, le retribuzioni si abbassano.
La sicurezza non c'entra, temo, altrimenti gli aeromobili FR e U2, i cui piloti sono retribuiti parecchio meno dei loro omologhi delle majors (o supposte tali, vero AZ?) dovrebbero cadere come le mosche...
Scusa, hai indicazioni a supporto della tua tesi? Mi sembra un ragionamento molto avventato e carico di qualunquismo, senza alcun dato che vada a dare credito a quanto affermi.
Flyflyfly
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Non ho nessun supporto alla mia tesi, solo un mio semplice pensiero. Probabilmente è un ragionamento avventato, ma se permetti è una mia considerazione. Non ho ovviamente detto nulla contro nessuno in particolare, solo considerato che piloti alle prime armi (come medici, professori, avvocati, notai) possano essere meno professionali (metti per l'esperienza sul lavoro che ti porta poi a far scelte e tc etc) rispetto ad altri che sono già sul campo. Che poi sia per molti non cosi benvenga ovvio.
Da come hai risposto sembra che fosse un attacco verso di te, la mia era solo una considerazione personale