Consegne e notizie sugli A380


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su VCE arriverà e ci starà bene penso, su BLQ la vedo dura anche perchè come si è capito in questi mesi uno dei fattori di successo del volo è il cargo in stiva che ha più spazio sul 773 :)
Credo che il problema principale di BLQ sia l'aeroporto. Io non vedo un A380 a BLQ con l'infrastruttura attuale. Non credo nemmeno sia possibile una volta che il progetto di sviluppo sia completato. Questo a prescindere dal numero di potenziali passeggeri, cargo, ecc.
 

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E' impensabile che il solo ordine Iraniano possa allungare la vita al progetto e la speranza di un neo, terranno la linea aperta solo per la bella tasca di EK?. Al limite allungherà l'agonia finale purtroppo perchè anche per me resta una macchina bellissima che adoro, ma i costi e tutto ciò che vi ruota attorno non consentiranno un attivo.
 

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Ma com'è che il 380 non interessa proprio a nessuna delle major americane?
In un articolo pubblicato su questo forum, Delta - per citarne una - preferisce garantire una maggir scelta di connessioni
Penso di averne gia' scritto a riguardo, ma un refresh fa sempre bene! ;)

Le ragioni sono molte, ma basta guardare all'attitudine delle major americane verso i VLA (Very Large Aircraft) per concludere che queste hanno da sempre preferito moduli di taglie medie.

Nella storia recente, il 747-8 ha raccolto zero ordini "in casa", il 777-300ER solo recentemente e' stato acquistato in poche unita' da AA e per il momento il 777X non ha ricevuto le preferenze delle compagnie US.

Il mercato c'e' per un numero non troppo esiguo di aerei, ma la loro tendenza a gestire flotte molto grandi per ogni modello ha comunque la prevalenza.
 

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QR non sembra avere nessuna fretta di ricevere i 380 ancora in ordine.


Fuel price decline eases Qatar's concerns on A380 efficiency


  • 09 MARCH, 2016
  • BY: MICHAEL GUBISCH
  • BERLIN

Qatar Airways delayed deliveries of four on-order Airbus A380s out of concern about the economics of operating the double-deck type before the recent fuel price decline.

Four A380s – which had been scheduled to join the Gulf carrier's fleet this year and in 2017 – were deferred by a year each, the airline's chief executive Akbar Al Baker said today at the ITB travel fair in Berlin. A delay was agreed with Airbus more than two years ago because Qatar needed to "protect" itself against high fuel costs, he explains.
He adds that the A380 "becomes very efficient when the oil is where it is now".
If the oil price stays at around $60, says Al Baker, there may be "a possibility" of Qatar exercising options for three additional A380s.
However, he sees the oil price reduction as a "double-edged sword" for airlines. Low fuel prices serve as a tailwind for carriers to reduce operating costs but also lead to reduction in premium traffic as companies cut back travel costs, he observes.
Meanwhile, Qatar has notified Airbus when it wants to receive its remaining on-order A380s, and the manufacturer "will now start the process of completion" for these aircraft, he says.
Qatar's next A380 is to be delivered by the end of this year or in early 2017.
Today, the Doha-based Oneworld carrier operates six A380s fitted with Engine Alliance GP7200 powerplants.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...line-eases-qatars-concerns-on-a380-ef-422935/
 

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O forse non riescono a riempirli..
Probabile. E pensare che al momento ne hanno appena 6...
Ennesima stoccata di Clark ai vertici di Tolosa

Emirates Airline boss sees lack of clarity at Airbus over A380 plans
http://www.wsj.com/articles/emirate...-clarity-at-airbus-over-a380-plans-1457599689
Posto un articolo analogo ad accesso libero.

Emirates Criticizes Airbus Plans to Delay Work on New A380

Emirates president Tim Clark criticizes Airbus’ plan to delay work on the revamped A380 and its plans to look into possibilities of the A350-8000


By Hassan Ali on Mar 11, 2016 at 7:40 am EST

Emirates Airline has criticized Airbus Group SE’s (OTCMKTS:EADSY) plans to delay work on the revamped version of its A380 Superjumbo jet, which was announced earlier last week. Tim Clark, president of the Middle-East based airline is still of the opinion that the European aircraft manufacturer should focus on introducing the A380 with new engine options instead of looking ahead for a revamped version of its A350 twin-engine aircraft.Emirates, the biggest operator of the long-range aircraft and the world’s largest airline in terms of international traffic, has been in talks with Airbus to upgrade its A380 to be more fuel economic with improved passenger costs. The airline also promised a large number of orders in case a new version is introduced in the market.
Mr. Clark does not see clarity in Airbus’ plans to work on new A350 and said that it “makes little sense.” Emirates’ president commented at the ITB travel fair that “There seems to be a certain amount of cloudiness…They’ve got the A380neo and then bingo, out pops the new A350-1000. I’m not quite sure how that’s going to pan out.”

Chain of Events That Intensified Talks on A380

The A380 superjumbo has been the center point of discussion for both Airbus and Emirates as the aircraft manufacturer is not receiving many orders for its wide-body jets amid the changed trend of increased use of smaller jets by airlines around the world. Earlier last week, Airbus highlighted that Emirates is facing issues in expanding its flight operations at Dubai International Airport on which the aircraft manufacturer speculated that the new A380 is not likely to enter into service by 2020.
The following day, it was also rumored that Airbus was in talks with airlines to evaluate demand of the new A350-8000 with the aim to compete with its rival’s 400-seater aircraft. However, a final decision on the new A350 version is yet to be announced in the Farnborough Airshow expected to be held in July this year.

Reasons Behind Confusion on Development of A380

Since the aircraft entered into commercial service in fiscal year 2007, Airbus’ A380 has received 319 orders, out of which it had delivered 182 by the end of February 2016. Airbus does not seems to be happy with only handful of A380 orders received and is worried that even if it launches a revamped version of A380 jet, it might not receive much orders from any other airline except Emirates in the long run.
Furthermore, initial issues in A380's cockpit wiring also lead to delays in deliveries as there was a high degree of customization for each airline. Airbus might again face similar issues in the production, which would lead to delivery delays in future, which will ultimately increase project cost.
Increased demand of single-aisle smaller jets might also be one of the reasons Airbus is hesitant to work on the new superjumbo jet. As per the 2015 order book, 966 orders out of total 1,139 were of single-aisle jets, which represent 84.8% of total orders received during the year.
Airlines around the world are also grounding the old wide-body jets that consume more fuel as compared to the new single-aisle commercial jets. As a replacement, airlines are more inclined to use single-aisle jets based on improved fuel economy amid increased competition.

Conclusion

Considering the current scenario, it might not be profitable for Airbus to work on the new superjumbo jet as the aircraft manufacturers predicts high demand of smaller jets by the next 20 years. Moreover, Emirates is the only consumer that is asking for the superjumbo jet while all of the rest are placing orders of single-aisle jets. Even if a revamped version of A380 is launched with improved fuel economy, airlines struggles to completely fill the aircraft, which does not make production of new aircraft feasible.

http://www.bidnessetc.com/65279-emirates-criticizes-airbus-plans-delay-work-a380/


 

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Ora nemmeno i francesi credono più nell'A380...

Air France Cancels Remaining A380 Orders

Well turns out the rumors were true.

As has been apparent and stated both publicly and internally the A380 is far from ideal for Air France.

Accordingly the company elected to quietly cancel its 2 remaining A380 frames and instead substitution to acquire 3 A350-900 frames.

Details of this appear on page 87 of released AFKL 2015 year-end financial reports.
http://www.airfranceklm.com/sites/de...ated_financial_statements_2015.pdf

These remaining A380 orders were previously in 2013 deferred to 2017 delivery.
With this substitution, the AFKL A350 fleet order is increase to 28 frames from 25.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6650691/
 

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Penso di averne gia' scritto a riguardo, ma un refresh fa sempre bene! ;)

Le ragioni sono molte, ma basta guardare all'attitudine delle major americane verso i VLA (Very Large Aircraft) per concludere che queste hanno da sempre preferito moduli di taglie medie.

Nella storia recente, il 747-8 ha raccolto zero ordini "in casa", il 777-300ER solo recentemente e' stato acquistato in poche unita' da AA e per il momento il 777X non ha ricevuto le preferenze delle compagnie US.

Il mercato c'e' per un numero non troppo esiguo di aerei, ma la loro tendenza a gestire flotte molto grandi per ogni modello ha comunque la prevalenza.
Anche UNITED ha puntato sui 777-300ER: "United has 10 777-300ERs on order, and the airline expects to receive its first in late 2016. There will be 60 BusinessFirst, 110 Economy Plus, and 196 Economy seats."
 

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Ora nemmeno i francesi credono più nell'A380...

Air France Cancels Remaining A380 Orders

Well turns out the rumors were true.

As has been apparent and stated both publicly and internally the A380 is far from ideal for Air France.

Accordingly the company elected to quietly cancel its 2 remaining A380 frames and instead substitution to acquire 3 A350-900 frames.

Details of this appear on page 87 of released AFKL 2015 year-end financial reports.
http://www.airfranceklm.com/sites/de...ated_financial_statements_2015.pdf

These remaining A380 orders were previously in 2013 deferred to 2017 delivery.
With this substitution, the AFKL A350 fleet order is increase to 28 frames from 25.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6650691/
È un segnale politicamente molto pesante. Se al posto di un ulteriore rinvio delle consegne, si è scelto di convertire l'ordine con dei 350, è legittimo pensare che secondo AF l'aereo non avrà in futuro una redditività accettabile. E che probabilmente non intende sostituire i 380 in flotta.
 

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Buongiorno, dove posso trovare tutte le rotte aggiornate dei A380 e a350?!? Grazie


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È un segnale politicamente molto pesante. Se al posto di un ulteriore rinvio delle consegne, si è scelto di convertire l'ordine con dei 350, è legittimo pensare che secondo AF l'aereo non avrà in futuro una redditività accettabile. E che probabilmente non intende sostituire i 380 in flotta.
Non è un bel segnale per niente...
 

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Non è un bel segnale per niente...
Infatti, e va a deperire ulteriormente un carnet che, EK esclusa, comprende solo 19 ordini inevasi ragionevolmente certi (NH, OZ, BA, EY, QR e SQ). Le altre commesse vanno da un alto grado di incertezza, alla carta straccia (Air Austral).
E' sempre più chiaro che Airbus dovrà decidere quanto prima se modernizzare l'aereo (costerebbe qualche miliardo di euro, ma salverebbe i 20 MLD€ spesi finora e lo renderebbe competitivo nella sua nicchia di mercato), o lasciar morire lentamente la propria ammiraglia. Scelta difficile, qualunque sia.
 

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Emirates orders two additional A380 aircraft

DUBAI, U.A.E, 13 April 2016: Emirates today announced it has placed an order with manufacturer Airbus for an additional two new A380 aircraft, to be delivered in the 4th quarter of 2017.

Emirates already operates the world’s largest fleet of Airbus A380s, with 75 in service and a further 65 on firm order. The additional two aircraft, to be powered by Rolls Royce Trent 900 engines will take Emirates’ total A380 order book to 142.

Sir Tim Clark, President Emirates Airline said: “From now until the end of 2017, Emirates will retire 30 older aircraft from our fleet. At the same time, to meet our growth expectations, we will receive delivery of 24 new Boeing 777, and 33 new A380 aircraft including these two additional A380 aircraft just ordered. This is in line with our strategy to operate a modern and efficient fleet and offer the best possible experience for our customers.”

He added: “We’ve always been open about how the A380 has been a big success for Emirates. It’s a boon for our operations to slot constrained airports and we get a lot of positive feedback from our customers. In fact, demand from customers for our A380 product is growing, as we expand our A380 network and more travellers have had the opportunity to experience it first-hand.”

The two new aircraft will be in two-class configuration and feature Emirates’ industry-leading products including, the iconic Onboard Lounge where Business Class passengers can socialise at 40,000 feet, Emirates’ award-winning inflight entertainment ice with over 2,500 channels and free Wi-Fi.

Prague, Taipei and Vienna will soon become destinations on the Emirates route network served by Emirates A380s, after which the airline will have 42 destinations across the globe served by its flagship A380 aircraft.

Airbus estimates that Emirates’ A380 orders support the employment of 41,000 direct, indirect and induced jobs in Europe. About 70% of these jobs are split equally between France and Germany, with the UK having 17% and the remaining 5,000 jobs in Spain. These are high-skilled jobs and impact a high-value supply chain, creating a significant multiplier effect in the countries where Airbus has aircraft production facilities.