Lufthansa-previsto sciopero selvaggio con solo 6 ore di preavviso
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Vogliono un aumento di paga? Ma se sono già tra i meglio pagati, almeno in Europa?!
Onestamente, certe battaglie sindacali le capisco poco, specie in questo clima e in una compagnia che ha postato centinaia di milioni di € di perdite. E riesco a capirle ancora meno quando penso che, in tutta Europa, altri dipendenti di compagnie aeree (rampisti, personale di terra, catering, manutenzione) sono esternalizzati oppure obbligati ad accettare contratti assai più pesanti e meno retribuiti di quelli degli AAVV. Giusto per fare un esempio, un membro del personale di terra di Iberia lavora giornalmente 8 ore e mezza e ha diritto ad una sola pausa, di mezz'ora.
Onestamente, certe battaglie sindacali le capisco poco, specie in questo clima e in una compagnia che ha postato centinaia di milioni di € di perdite. E riesco a capirle ancora meno quando penso che, in tutta Europa, altri dipendenti di compagnie aeree (rampisti, personale di terra, catering, manutenzione) sono esternalizzati oppure obbligati ad accettare contratti assai più pesanti e meno retribuiti di quelli degli AAVV. Giusto per fare un esempio, un membro del personale di terra di Iberia lavora giornalmente 8 ore e mezza e ha diritto ad una sola pausa, di mezz'ora.
speedbird437
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Cioè Lufthansa, semi massacrata insieme ad Air France-KLM e BA per via della concorrenza del Golfo e vogliono più soldi? sono sconnessi dalla realtà.
SWISS (gruppo Lufthansa) è pronta ad aumentare il numero di voli per la Germania in caso di sciopero (si dice) domani giovedì. Per motivi sindacali non potrà però sostituire direttamente i voli LH.
lo scandaloso è che rinunciano a un 3.5 % rispetto a un 5% di aumento??????????
Io li ritengo fortunati se hanno ancora un lavoro....
Bene se la smazzino i tedeschi ora.
Pero sinceramente non prendono male....per in 1.5 % scioperano mah!
Io li ritengo fortunati se hanno ancora un lavoro....
Bene se la smazzino i tedeschi ora.
Pero sinceramente non prendono male....per in 1.5 % scioperano mah!
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Lufthansa cabin crew strike to begin 31 August
By: MICHAEL GUBISCH LONDON
Lufthansa cabin crew will begin their planned strike on Friday 31 August.
German flight attendant union UFO says that for "tactical reasons" it will reveal neither the time nor the location of the walkout - but it insists that concrete industrial action will start tomorrow.
The union plans to inform its members six hours before the strike which airline stations will be affected.
UFO chairman Nicoley Baublies told German reporters that the walkout will initially get underway at individual locations, before possibly broadening to cover a wider area.
UFO says on its website that "some people might be surprised to see that the strike will take place where the responsibility for the current disaster with Lufthansa began". It is unclear whether this is a reference to Berlin Tegel airport.
Lufthansa had planned to employ temporary staff from an external job agency, AviationPower, as cabin crew on its restructured operations in the German capital.
But according to UFO, the airline could not find enough staff for the advertised positions, and its plans were disrupted by the delayed opening of Berlin Brandenburg airport - now pushed back to March 2013.
The use of external cabin crew in Lufthansa's restructured European operations, which are due to begin in January, remains a central issue in the disagreement between the airline and union.
UFO says that its industrial action could go on for "very long".
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/lufthansa-cabin-crew-strike-to-begin-31-august-375933/
Guerriglia sindacale inqualificabile.
By: MICHAEL GUBISCH LONDON
German flight attendant union UFO says that for "tactical reasons" it will reveal neither the time nor the location of the walkout - but it insists that concrete industrial action will start tomorrow.
The union plans to inform its members six hours before the strike which airline stations will be affected.
UFO chairman Nicoley Baublies told German reporters that the walkout will initially get underway at individual locations, before possibly broadening to cover a wider area.
UFO says on its website that "some people might be surprised to see that the strike will take place where the responsibility for the current disaster with Lufthansa began". It is unclear whether this is a reference to Berlin Tegel airport.
Lufthansa had planned to employ temporary staff from an external job agency, AviationPower, as cabin crew on its restructured operations in the German capital.
But according to UFO, the airline could not find enough staff for the advertised positions, and its plans were disrupted by the delayed opening of Berlin Brandenburg airport - now pushed back to March 2013.
The use of external cabin crew in Lufthansa's restructured European operations, which are due to begin in January, remains a central issue in the disagreement between the airline and union.
UFO says that its industrial action could go on for "very long".
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/lufthansa-cabin-crew-strike-to-begin-31-august-375933/
Guerriglia sindacale inqualificabile.
dovrebbero fare come la qantas negli anni 80..."compagnia in crisi e voi scioperate perchè volete l'aumento di stipendio?...vuol dire non ve ne frega niente della compagnia ma solo di voi stessi quindi...a casaaaaaaa!!"
Lufthansa: sciopero a Francoforte
(ANSA) - BERLINO, 31 AGO - Il personale di bordo basato a Francoforte della compagnia aerea tedesca Lufthansa si mettera' in sciopero oggi dalle 5 alle 13 ora locale. Lo annuncia il sindacato di categoria Ufo che nei giorni scorsi aveva avvertito di un imminente mobilitazione ''senza preavviso'', dopo il fallimento della trattativa su una vertenza che riguarda 19 mila lavoratori. (ANSA).
http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubr...1/Lufthansa-sciopero-Francoforte_7401990.html
(ANSA) - BERLINO, 31 AGO - Il personale di bordo basato a Francoforte della compagnia aerea tedesca Lufthansa si mettera' in sciopero oggi dalle 5 alle 13 ora locale. Lo annuncia il sindacato di categoria Ufo che nei giorni scorsi aveva avvertito di un imminente mobilitazione ''senza preavviso'', dopo il fallimento della trattativa su una vertenza che riguarda 19 mila lavoratori. (ANSA).
http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubr...1/Lufthansa-sciopero-Francoforte_7401990.html
Qantaslink
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Condivido pienamente, ma poi subentrano i sindacati che ti reintegrano. Ma non capisco se uno viene licenziato perchè la società e in crisi, perchè non lo deve essere perchè il lavoratore ricorre in giudizio?
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Lufthansa Attendants Resume Work After Frankfurt Walkout
Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA) flight attendants resumed work after an eight-hour pay strike forced Europe’s second-largest airline to cancel most services at its main Frankfurt airport hub.
Cabin crew members reported for duty after the walkout called by the Unabhaengige Flugbegleiter Organisation union ended at 1 p.m., said Thomas Jachnow, a Lufthansa spokesman. The airline canceled at least 207 flights, primarily within Europe as well as services to and from some U.S. cities, Tel Aviv and Chennai, India, according to Lufthansa’s website.
The dispute centers on the pace of pay raises and whether separate wage scales apply to some groups of workers as Lufthansa implements a 1.5 billion-euro ($1.9 billion) savings program dubbed Score. The Cologne, Germany-based company has already announced plans to scrap as many as 4,500 jobs in administration and catering to reduce its 120,000-employee global workforce.
“The fear is that this conflict goes on indefinitely because the negotiation positions seem very far apart,” Jochen Rothenbacher, an analyst at Equinet Bank AG, said by phone. “Lufthansa has to cut costs, that is clear because of the market conditions, and the union is of course opposed to it.”
Rebooking Lines
Lines at check-in counters stretched beyond 100 meters at Frankfurt as passengers tried to rebook seats. A canceled 9:05 a.m. flight to Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, stranded that country’s national basketball team as it was flying home from a game in Latvia to get ready for another match against the Netherlands tomorrow.
“We have no idea how we’re going to get back,” said 22- year-old Nemanja Metrovic, who plays shooting guard and was traveling with the 20 other members of the Bosnian squad. “It gives us less time to prepare. Just find us a plane.”
Lufthansa had 360 flights on its normal timetable for today at Frankfurt, said Klaus Gorny, a Lufthansa spokesman. The airline has been “trying as hard as possible to carry out the existing flight schedule and to book our passengers onto other flights,” he said.
Additional cancellations are likely today as the strike left some planes in the wrong location to carry out flights, spokesman Jachnow said.
90% Participation
Almost 90 percent of UFO members who were scheduled to fly took part in the strike, Alexander Behrens, a spokesman for the union, said by phone. He declined to specify the number of participants.
“We are all delighted with how it went and are happy that everyone is defending this group of employees together,” Behrens said. A new strike could be called as early as tomorrow, he said.
Contract talks between UFO and Lufthansa collapsed on Aug. 28. The union has outlined plans for short-term strikes initially, with unlimited walkouts possible later. UFO has said it will give six hours notice of any stoppage.
A full-day halt at Frankfurt would cost Lufthansa at least 6 million euros, Peter Oppitzhauser, a Zurich-based Credit Agricole analyst, said today by phone. Extending the walkout acrossGermany would set Lufthansa back 12 million euros a day, equating to 2 percent of full-year operating profit estimates, he said.
Union Demands
UFO said late yesterday that it’s seeking a 5 percent raise on a one-year contract backdated to April 1, and reiterated a contention that Lufthansa’s most recent pay proposal amounts to a 1.5 percent annual increase that would erode wages by 1,300 euros a month after inflation. Lufthansa said on Aug. 28 that its raise totals 3.5 percent over time, and all flight attendants would get higher pay.
The union also opposes Lufthansa’s demand that flight attendants assigned to its expanding Berlin operations work 9 percent more hours than employees elsewhere for the same wages, and has objected to its use of temporary workers there. In addition, the parties were unable to agree on whether to protect employees after 2013 from being transferred to low-cost divisions under cheaper pay contracts, according to UFO.
Lufthansa rose as much as 1.4 percent to 9.90 euros and was trading up 1 percent at 2:54 p.m. in Frankfurt.
Frankfurt was Europe’s third-busiest airport in the 12 months through May, trailing only London and Paris, according to trade group Airports Council International. Among carriers in the region, Lufthansa ranks second to Paris-based Air France-KLM Group (AF) in terms of traffic, or the number of passengers multiplied by the distance flown.
Deutsche Bahn AG, Germany’s state-owned railway, said today in a statement that it will operate every available train and put extra staff on duty to cope with the anticipated higher numbers of passengers caused by the Lufthansa strike.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...t-attendants-wall-off-job-in-pay-dispute.html
Lufthansa Attendants Resume Work After Frankfurt Walkout
Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA) flight attendants resumed work after an eight-hour pay strike forced Europe’s second-largest airline to cancel most services at its main Frankfurt airport hub.
Cabin crew members reported for duty after the walkout called by the Unabhaengige Flugbegleiter Organisation union ended at 1 p.m., said Thomas Jachnow, a Lufthansa spokesman. The airline canceled at least 207 flights, primarily within Europe as well as services to and from some U.S. cities, Tel Aviv and Chennai, India, according to Lufthansa’s website.
The dispute centers on the pace of pay raises and whether separate wage scales apply to some groups of workers as Lufthansa implements a 1.5 billion-euro ($1.9 billion) savings program dubbed Score. The Cologne, Germany-based company has already announced plans to scrap as many as 4,500 jobs in administration and catering to reduce its 120,000-employee global workforce.
“The fear is that this conflict goes on indefinitely because the negotiation positions seem very far apart,” Jochen Rothenbacher, an analyst at Equinet Bank AG, said by phone. “Lufthansa has to cut costs, that is clear because of the market conditions, and the union is of course opposed to it.”
Rebooking Lines
Lines at check-in counters stretched beyond 100 meters at Frankfurt as passengers tried to rebook seats. A canceled 9:05 a.m. flight to Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, stranded that country’s national basketball team as it was flying home from a game in Latvia to get ready for another match against the Netherlands tomorrow.
“We have no idea how we’re going to get back,” said 22- year-old Nemanja Metrovic, who plays shooting guard and was traveling with the 20 other members of the Bosnian squad. “It gives us less time to prepare. Just find us a plane.”
Lufthansa had 360 flights on its normal timetable for today at Frankfurt, said Klaus Gorny, a Lufthansa spokesman. The airline has been “trying as hard as possible to carry out the existing flight schedule and to book our passengers onto other flights,” he said.
Additional cancellations are likely today as the strike left some planes in the wrong location to carry out flights, spokesman Jachnow said.
90% Participation
Almost 90 percent of UFO members who were scheduled to fly took part in the strike, Alexander Behrens, a spokesman for the union, said by phone. He declined to specify the number of participants.
“We are all delighted with how it went and are happy that everyone is defending this group of employees together,” Behrens said. A new strike could be called as early as tomorrow, he said.
Contract talks between UFO and Lufthansa collapsed on Aug. 28. The union has outlined plans for short-term strikes initially, with unlimited walkouts possible later. UFO has said it will give six hours notice of any stoppage.
A full-day halt at Frankfurt would cost Lufthansa at least 6 million euros, Peter Oppitzhauser, a Zurich-based Credit Agricole analyst, said today by phone. Extending the walkout acrossGermany would set Lufthansa back 12 million euros a day, equating to 2 percent of full-year operating profit estimates, he said.
Union Demands
UFO said late yesterday that it’s seeking a 5 percent raise on a one-year contract backdated to April 1, and reiterated a contention that Lufthansa’s most recent pay proposal amounts to a 1.5 percent annual increase that would erode wages by 1,300 euros a month after inflation. Lufthansa said on Aug. 28 that its raise totals 3.5 percent over time, and all flight attendants would get higher pay.
The union also opposes Lufthansa’s demand that flight attendants assigned to its expanding Berlin operations work 9 percent more hours than employees elsewhere for the same wages, and has objected to its use of temporary workers there. In addition, the parties were unable to agree on whether to protect employees after 2013 from being transferred to low-cost divisions under cheaper pay contracts, according to UFO.
Lufthansa rose as much as 1.4 percent to 9.90 euros and was trading up 1 percent at 2:54 p.m. in Frankfurt.
Frankfurt was Europe’s third-busiest airport in the 12 months through May, trailing only London and Paris, according to trade group Airports Council International. Among carriers in the region, Lufthansa ranks second to Paris-based Air France-KLM Group (AF) in terms of traffic, or the number of passengers multiplied by the distance flown.
Deutsche Bahn AG, Germany’s state-owned railway, said today in a statement that it will operate every available train and put extra staff on duty to cope with the anticipated higher numbers of passengers caused by the Lufthansa strike.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...t-attendants-wall-off-job-in-pay-dispute.html
tiefpeck
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Testimonianza: passato ieri da FRA. Per puro caso ero su OS 131, che è stato operato con B767-300 OE-LAY. Pieno, naturalmente, di passeggeri LH, direi con largo uso di involuntary upgrading in business.
Partiti ed arrivati con quasi un'ora di ritardo causa congestione slots su FRA. Purtroppo, nessuna notizia sulle coincidenze è stata data nè sull'aereo, nè all'arrivo. A FRA situazione di evidente crisi, anche se mi è stato detto che rispetto a quanto accaduto in mattinata si trattava di una passeggiata.
Ho avuto sfortuna perchè la mia coincidenza, LH 712, parte dal terminal C. Adesso c'è un trenino, altrimenti si cammina parecchio, ed in teoria l'imbarco era imminente. Nessuna coda al controllo passaporti, nè ai controlli di sicurezza (anche se io sono stato bloccato, ma questa è un'altra storia).
Piccola ricompensa finale: imbarco diretto da lounge al gate C16. LH 712 con 2 pax in F, direi almeno 85% in J, dietro non so. Arrivo con 10 minuti di ritardo e spiegamento di forze per raccogliere dei transiti su Osaka un po' ironico visto l'abbandono subito a FRA. Da notare una cena di qualità decisamente migliore della media (carpa).
Morale: OS è andata in soccorso di LH, queste sono mosse furbe per contenere i danni. Peccato per la mancata assistenza, ma in effetti saranno stati troppo impegnati con i passeggeri stranded già in aeroporto.
Partiti ed arrivati con quasi un'ora di ritardo causa congestione slots su FRA. Purtroppo, nessuna notizia sulle coincidenze è stata data nè sull'aereo, nè all'arrivo. A FRA situazione di evidente crisi, anche se mi è stato detto che rispetto a quanto accaduto in mattinata si trattava di una passeggiata.
Ho avuto sfortuna perchè la mia coincidenza, LH 712, parte dal terminal C. Adesso c'è un trenino, altrimenti si cammina parecchio, ed in teoria l'imbarco era imminente. Nessuna coda al controllo passaporti, nè ai controlli di sicurezza (anche se io sono stato bloccato, ma questa è un'altra storia).
Piccola ricompensa finale: imbarco diretto da lounge al gate C16. LH 712 con 2 pax in F, direi almeno 85% in J, dietro non so. Arrivo con 10 minuti di ritardo e spiegamento di forze per raccogliere dei transiti su Osaka un po' ironico visto l'abbandono subito a FRA. Da notare una cena di qualità decisamente migliore della media (carpa).
Morale: OS è andata in soccorso di LH, queste sono mosse furbe per contenere i danni. Peccato per la mancata assistenza, ma in effetti saranno stati troppo impegnati con i passeggeri stranded già in aeroporto.
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Alitalia Fan
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Vorrei sentire il parere del forumista LH che scriveva qui... Il nick era kuranda se non sbaglio!
