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red_one

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E' brutto da dirsi, ma meno male.... Ho letto in post precedente che Emirates ha sostituito gli RR molto prima dell'accaduto "oggetto" delle varie discussioni.... Qualcuno ha qualche informazione in piu' in merito? Anche perchè commercialmente è una mazzata sostituire quattro motori di un A380 "quasi nuovi", non è che avessero già qualche sospetto?
 

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E' brutto da dirsi, ma meno male.... Ho letto in post precedente che Emirates ha sostituito gli RR molto prima dell'accaduto "oggetto" delle varie discussioni.... Qualcuno ha qualche informazione in piu' in merito? Anche perchè commercialmente è una mazzata sostituire quattro motori di un A380 "quasi nuovi", non è che avessero già qualche sospetto?
Non è che Emirates ha sostituito i RR con gli EA, semplicemente aveva ordinato gli A380 con motori EA, ma uno degli A380 che gli è stato consegnato è stato usato prima da Airbus per le fasi di certificazione con motori RR prima e dinuovo per la certificazione con motori EA. Gli A380 di EK nuovi di pacca hanno tutti gli EA sin dall'assemblaggio.
 

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Non è che Emirates ha sostituito i RR con gli EA, semplicemente aveva ordinato gli A380 con motori EA, ma uno degli A380 che gli è stato consegnato è stato usato prima da Airbus per le fasi di certificazione con motori RR prima e dinuovo per la certificazione con motori EA. Gli A380 di EK nuovi di pacca hanno tutti gli EA sin dall'assemblaggio.
Grazie, non era chiaro (oppure ho letto male) il precedente.
 

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Airbus to seek Rolls-Royce compensation

By Pilita Clark in London and Peter Smith in Sydney

Published: November 18 2010 18:34 | Last updated: November 18 2010 18:34

Rolls-Royce’s woes over the Qantas A380 engine blow-out mounted on Thursday after Airbus, the superjumbo jet’s manufacturer, said it would seek “full financial compensation” from the British engine maker for the potential disruption it faces.

The warning suggests Rolls-Royce could face a more serious financial impact than previously thought as a result of the dramatic November 4 engine failure that forced a Qantas A380 to make an emergency landing at Singapore shortly after take-off.

So far, Airbus, Qantas and other affected airlines using the same Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines on their A380 superjumbos – Singapore Airlines and Lufthansa – have skirted the issue of whether they would seek financial compensation from Rolls.

But Toulouse-based Airbus said on Thursday the company was facing additional financial pressures as it prepared to juggle its own production schedules to get Rolls-Royce engines destined for other A380 customers to carriers such as Qantas, which has had all six of its superjumbos grounded since the incident.

“We will seek full financial compensation from Rolls-Royce,” it said, adding the company could not say how much this may be until Rolls gave more information on how it was planning to tackle the situation.

“We lack visibility at the moment from Rolls-Royce,” it said. “We need a masterplan from Rolls-Royce on how they want to address this to estimate the impact on our production processes next year.”

He said the biggest financial costs could emerge if Airbus were forced to delay deliveries to customers as a result of the Rolls engine problems. Rolls declined to comment.

The comments came as Alan Joyce, Qantas chief executive, on Thursday said that about 40 Trent 900 engines would need to be checked across the Qantas, Singapore Airlines and Lufthansa A380 fleets.

Of that number, Mr Joyce said Qantas itself might need to replace or modify up to 14 engines.

Qantas is still unable to say when its fleet of six A380s will return to service. “We don’t know a date. We have changed three engines and we are still going through the other engines,” the airline said.

Mr Joyce said Qantas and Rolls-Royce were trying to identify the total number of problem engines.

“We’re hoping to understand in the near future precisely which engines need to be replaced and therefore have a firm timeline for when they will be back in the air but we are still a few days away from that.”

He said that Qantas’s capacity had been reduced by “four to five per cent”. The carrier is using Boeing 747s to replace its grounded A380 fleet.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2010.
 

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Lufthansa seeks spare Trent 900 for another A380 swap

By David Kaminski-Morrow

German flag-carrier Lufthansa is to undertake another engine change on its first Airbus A380 aircraft, this time as a direct result of the Qantas powerplant incident earlier this month.

Lufthansa has yet to determine from where it will source the additional Rolls-Royce Trent 900, having already exhausted its spare engine reserves with a separate engine change - although for a reason unrelated to the Qantas mishap.

The airline will only confirm that it is to make a single engine change, and points out that it will keep the aircraft in service until the swap by following the precautionary checks imposed by Rolls-Royce and the European Aviation Safety Agency.

"It is not a problem to fly this A380," says a spokesman for the carrier. "It is safe to fly."

Lufthansa will not identify the aircraft involved but a source familiar with the situation has informed ATI that the airframe is the same one - serial number 38, registered D-AIMA, its oldest A380 - which underwent the previous, routine, engine change.

But the source says the plan to obtain the engine is "not concrete". The airline has a fifth A380 on the production line, due for delivery next year, and the source indicates that this jet may have to be "cannibalised" to provide the powerplant.

As a result, the source adds, the airline is "not sure" how long it might have to wait to secure a extra Trent 900.

Spare engines have become a scarce resource since the uncontained Trent 900 failure on a Qantas A380 on 4 November. All three operators of Trent 900-powered examples have committed to changing a number of powerplants since the incident.

Airbus says it has yet to determine the number of engines which might need changing among the 80 on the global fleet of 20 Trent-equipped jets.

But the airframer says that Rolls-Royce is to "supply the airlines directly with any replacement engines which they agree are needed", which could be sourced from Rolls-Royce's own production line, Airbus assembly lines or carriers' spare stocks.

"Airbus is supporting Rolls-Royce and the customers when requested to do so, by demounting engines from the customer's production aircraft in Toulouse and Hamburg," adds a spokesman for Airbus.

http://www.flightglobal.com/article...ks-spare-trent-900-for-another-a380-swap.html
 

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Skymark to Fly A380s to London in Business-Fare War (Update1)
A By Chris Cooper and Kiyotaka Matsuda

Nov. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Skymark Airlines Inc., the Japanese carrier planning to buy Airbus SAS A380s, said it expects to make money flying business travelers between Tokyo and London on the superjumbos for less than half the price rivals charge.
“There’s no competition in the business-class segment,” President Shinichi Nishikubo, who owns 49 percent of the low- fare carrier, said in a Nov. 19 interview in Tokyo. “Business- class seats just take the space of two economy seats. There’s no reason to charge as much as airlines do.”
Tokyo-based Skymark will compete with British Airways Plc, All Nippon Airways Co., Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd. and Japan Airlines Corp. on the London service. Nishikubo said he expects to make a profit on the route in the first 12 months after starting the A380 London flights in November 2014.
The carrier’s focus on business passengers flying overseas will help generate operating income of about 2.2 billion yen ($26 million) on sales of 15 billion yen a year on the London- Tokyo route alone, Nishikubo said. That’s almost as much as the company’s total operating profit last year as a budget carrier offering scheduled flights between Japanese cities.
“It appears a big gamble by Skymark,” Paul Dewberry, an analyst at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, said last week. “It’s one that we’ll probably look back on and say is pivotal. It potentially gives Skymark a cost advantage.”
Shares Gain
Skymark, which is listed on the start-up Mothers section of the Tokyo Stock Exchange, rose as much as 9.2 percent to 926 yen and was at 919 yen at the 11 a.m. trading break in Tokyo. The shares have fallen 2.6 percent since the Nov. 8 end of trading, when the company announced plans to buy A380s and start international scheduled service.
The planes will be fitted with 114 business-class seats on the upper deck and 280 premium economy seats below, and the first will be delivered in September 2014, Nishikubo said. Singapore Airlines Ltd., the largest operator of A380s, has 60 business-class, 399 economy-class and 12 first-class seats on its superjumbos.
Nishikubo’s plan to rewrite his airline’s low-cost, domestic economy carrier model risks losing the advantages of focusing on regional services with smaller aircraft, said Makoto Murayama, an analyst at Nomura Securities Co.
‘Surprise’
“It comes as a surprise to us that they would launch international services with A380s, the largest planes available,” Murayama wrote in a note to clients after Skymark’s Nov. 8 announcement it planned to buy the aircraft. “Low-cost carriers serving international routes in Asia and Europe mostly use mid-size planes that fly relatively short routes within their regions.”
Nishikubo intends to offer roundtrip business-class tickets on the London-Tokyo route for about 300,000 yen, compared with about 700,000 yen currently offered by Japanese airlines, he said. Frankfurt and New York routes will be added by fiscal 2017.
Skymark signed a memorandum of understanding with Airbus earlier this month covering the purchase of four A380s, with options for two more. The order for the first four planes is worth 1.39 billion euros ($1.9 billion), according to Airbus’s list prices.
The carrier intends to buy two of the aircraft with cash, Nishikubo said. The carrier will arrange leases for the other two with European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co., the parent of Airbus, he said.
Profit Outlook
Skymark is predicting net income of 5.5 billion yen for the year ending March 31, compared with a profit of 2.6 billion yen a year earlier. The carrier, which flies a fleet of 15 Boeing Co. 737 planes, forecasts sales of 56.5 billion yen for the period.
All Nippon, which has daily flights to London, forecasts net income of 6 billion yen on sales of 1.38 trillion yen for the year ending March 31.
Qantas Airways Ltd., which also flies A380s, grounded its fleet of six of the planes after a blowout in one of the engines on a flight earlier this month from Singapore to Sydney. The carrier said Rolls-Royce Group Plc may have to replace as many as 40 turbines. Skymark hasn’t decided what engines to buy, Nishikubo said.
 

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Airbus Chasing Boeing in Japan Expects Firm Orders From Skymark by March
By Andrea Rothman - Nov 23, 2010 1:01 AM GMT+0100

Airbus SAS said it’s confident of securing a firm order for four A380 superjumbos before the end of March from Skymark Airlines Inc., as it seeks to use the discount carrier to pry open the Japanese market.

Skymark, which operates a fleet of 15 Boeing Co. 737 aircraft on domestic routes, aims to use the double-decker Airbus to connect Tokyo with London. Airbus aims to get a firm commitment from Skymark by the end of the first quarter, said Kiran Rao, the Airbus executive vice president for sales and marketing in Asia.

“Japanese culture lends itself to the A380,” Rao said in a telephone interview yesterday. “If you look at the way that airlines operate the A380, you’ll see that one of the first markets they all went into is Japan.”

While the world’s largest passenger aircraft makes regular appearances in Japan with airlines including Deutsche Lufthansa AG, Airbus has struggled for decades to establish a presence similar to that of Boeing in the country. All Nippon Airways Co. came close to ordering A380s in 2008, only to pull out amid financing concerns as the global economy contracted, Rao said.

Skymark said on Nov. 12 that it may order as many as 15 Airbus A380s. The memorandum of understanding with the aircraft manufacturer is for four A380s.

Bolstering Orders

Airbus has just 7.3 percent of the Japanese airliner market today, with 21 of its planes in Japanese fleets, compared with about 93 percent of the market for Boeing, with 285 planes in Japanese fleets, according to figures provided by London-based Ascend, which collects global aviation data.

Securing a firm commitment from Skymark would help Airbus bolster its order book for the A380, after struggling to sign up new customers in recent years. The four-engine jet, which typically seats more than 500 travellers, has a list price of $346 million. Emirates is the largest single customer, having ordered 90. There are 38 A380s in service globally today.

Qantas Airways Ltd. grounded its entire fleet of six A380s on Nov. 4 after an engine blew up in mid flight. The jets remain grounded after the incident, in which there no casualties.

The Skymark A380s will be fitted with 114 business-class seats on the upper deck and 280 premium economy seats below. The first will be delivered in September 2014, Skymark President Shinichi Nishikubo said this month. Nishikubo said he expects to make a profit on the route in the first 12 months after starting the A380 London flights in November 2014.

Japanese Preferences

Rao said Japanese customers would be more inclined to embrace the A380 when operated by a local carrier because of their loyalty to national airlines and their desire for a level of service that can be best offered by a Japanese company.

“They’re very sensitive to flying with Japanese carriers, because they feel that culturally, they’re treated in the right way,” Rao said by telephone.

Skymark will compete with British Airways Plc, All Nippon, Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd. and Japan Airlines Corp. on the London service. Tokyo’s Narita airport was among the first three destinations served by Singapore Airlines, which began flying the A380 in 2007. Air France, the first European carrier to get the world’s largest passenger jet, also flies to the Narita hub.

Tokyo was Lufthansa’s first scheduled destination for the A380. It began serving the city with three weekly A380 flights initially, moving to daily flights when the second plane entered service in August. The German carrier flies the planes with 420 seats in economy, 98 in business and eight in first class.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...xpects-firm-orders-from-skymark-by-march.html
 

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Washington: new destination for the A380
Monday 29 November 2010
Starting 6 June 2011, the Air France A380 will operate a daily service between Paris and Washington DC.

The federal capital of the United States will thus become the 2nd U.S. destination served by the airline’s super jumbo, after New York, launched one year ago.
Flight schedules (local time):
- AF028 : Paris-Charles de Gaulle 10:40 - Washington 13:00
- AF 039 : Washington 16:25 - Paris-Charles de Gaulle 05:45 (+1)
Flight bookings and ticket sales will open on 30 November 2010.
In June 2010, Air France will thus operate the A380 to 5 destinations out of Paris-Charles de Gaulle : New York-JFK, Johannesburg, Tokyo, Montreal and Washington.
With the A380, Air France can rationalize its frequencies on these busy routes by combining two flights which leave at similar times while offering the same seat capacity at a 20% reduction in operating costs. The main deck of the A380 boasts equivalent capacity of a Boeing 777-200 and the upper deck that of an Airbus A340-300.
Air France’s A380 is currently equipped with 538 seats, divided between three classes: La Première (First), with 9 seats on the main deck, Business, comprising 80 seats on the upper deck, and Voyageur (Economy), with 449 seats divided between the two decks. Starting next summer 2011, the A380s will be progressively equipped with Premium Voyageur, situated between the Business and Voyageur cabins, offering 9 seats in Première, 80 in Business, 38 in Premium Voyageur and 389 in Voyageur.
The A380 is the most environmentally-friendly aircraft – with less than 75g of CO2 produced per passenger kilometre – and the quietest aircraft in its category. The roomier cabin offers increased comfort and space. On board this super jumbo, Air France has innovated with special lighting ambiences that change depending on the various stages of the flight, special areas geared towards relaxation and conviviality and the brand new in-flight entertainment system, featuring larger video screens.
Air France has been serving Washington since 1964 and currently connects Paris to the American capital twice daily. In the United States, Air France and KLM operate 186 weekly flights between Paris, Amsterdam and 13 destinations served with their own aircraft and crew in the U.S. These routes are operated within the framework of the trans-Atlantic joint venture signed in May 2009 between AIR FRANCE KLM and Delta. Under the terms of this agreement, the partners jointly operate their trans-Atlantic routes, therebv sharing revenues and costs. With nearly 250 daily trans-Atlantic flights, the joint venture, which welcomed Alitalia in July 2010, offers customers access to 300 destinations beyond the 26 North American gateways and 200 destinations beyond the 33 European gateways throughout Europe, Asia and Latin America.

http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/p...m/washington-nouvelle-destination-pour-la380/
 

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Cesare, l'A380 Lufthansa porta 420 passeggeri in configurazione all economy piano inferiore e 98 business più 8 first in quello superiore. Sempre su quest'ultimo AirFrance ci ha infilato 106 economy e 80 business. Non so farti un rapporto tra business ed economy, suppongo che sia vicino ai 3:5, fatti gli eventuali conti.
 

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Pazzesco, i conti tornano incredibile ma vero. AF sta usando l'380 su rotte dove ha piu' voli giornalieri come JNB e adesso IAD e usando il bestione riduce i voli a un solo daily. Per AF è un affarone, però in questo modo riduci la possibilità di flessiblità e scelta dell' orario che specie per i pax business è molto importante. Questa mossa potrebbe quindi essere una arma a doppio taglio per AF.
 

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Pazzesco, i conti tornano incredibile ma vero. AF sta usando l'380 su rotte dove ha piu' voli giornalieri come JNB e adesso IAD e usando il bestione riduce i voli a un solo daily. Per AF è un affarone, però in questo modo riduci la possibilità di flessiblità e scelta dell' orario che specie per i pax business è molto importante. Questa mossa potrebbe quindi essere una arma a doppio taglio per AF.
Quoto sull'arma a doppio taglio. Al pax business interessano le frequenze, non volare sull'A380.