Brexit e possibili ripercussioni sul mondo dell'aviazione


Paolo_61

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A questo punto fanno prima a dire "Signori, ci siamo sbagliati".
Sarebbe la cosa intelligente da fare, quindi non c'è alcuna speranza che la facciano - anche perché troppe carriere politiche sono affidate a questa colossale minxxxata
 

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Come mai a Lubiana invece di Vienna?
Credo sia una questione di immatricolazione: quando facevo questi "servizietti" ci veniva richiesto di deviare rotta dal piano di volo per sorvolare per xx minuti acque internazionali per "sigillare il passaggio da uno Stato all'altro. Supposizioni le mie, ma posso chiedere...
 

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E' da un po che Easyjet sta cambiando immatricolazione ai suoi aerei, quasi ogni giorno ne vedo su skyliner, questi gli ultimi due:
forse ne ho visti più di 10 solo a novembre
Airbus A320 -214 7235 OE-IVS easyJet Europe ferried 29nov/01dec17 MXP-LJU-MXP on transfer, re-regd 30nov17 ex G-EZPN
Airbus A320 -214 7632 OE-IVT easyJet Europe ferried 01dec17 MXP-LJU, G-reg prior transfer ex G-EZRB
Questo lo so: dovrebbero arrivare ad una 70ina entro la prossima summer. Facevo notare che dietro al coa non ci sia easyjet PLC, ma la società easyjet europe gmbh.
 

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Commento realistico dell'editore di ATW.


Time is fast running out to prevent a Brexit aviation crisis


With every ticking minute towards the day when the UK exits the European Union (EU), anxiety is growing among those in the airline industry about when replacement agreements will be secured to ensure uninterrupted commercial air traffic in and out of the UK.
Anxiety levels have now ratcheted up several more notches since the European Commission Directorate-General for Mobility and Transport confirmed what everyone knew, but hoped would not need to be spelled out with so little time left. In a “notice to operators,” the Commission stated that, unless agreed otherwise, the UK will become “a third country” from 0000 local time March 30, 2019 and EU aviation law will no longer apply to the UK.
Less there be any misunderstanding about what that means, the EC was explicit: UK carriers will no longer have access to air transport agreements between the EU and third countries, whether negotiated directly by the EU, or by the Member States acting jointly (as is the case with the EU-US bilateral). Likewise, EU carriers and third countries with EU agreements will no longer have traffic rights to, from and beyond the UK.
All airline operating licenses, air transport agreements and aviation certificates will similarly become void; to “obtain and keep” an EU operating license and access intra-EU air traffic rights, airlines must have their head office or registered office within an EU Member State and be majority owned and effectively controlled by EU interests.
“The aviation sector is highly integrated and harmonized at Union level. The current market access and freedoms enjoyed by aviation stakeholders have been granted under Union law, including notably free and unlimited access to intra-EU air traffic,” the EC pointed out. “In view of the considerable uncertainties, in particular concerning the content of a possible withdrawal agreement, all operators are reminded of certain legal repercussions stemming from currently applicable rules of Union law in the field of air transport when the United Kingdom becomes a third country.”
That “third country” status is looking increasingly like a looming crisis for aviation.
“Here it is in black and white from the EU Commission—UK flights to the EU will be grounded in March 2019 should no agreement be reached,” UK pilots union BALPA general secretary Brian Strutton commented. “We need the UK government to sort air traffic rights now … no deal is not an option.”
IATA director general and CEO Alexandre de Juniac warned that if the UK fails to establish traffic rights for airlines before it leaves the EU, it would be “a disaster.”
IATA is urging that airline traffic rights are established as soon as possible and by October 2018 at latest because airlines set their schedules and sell tickets at least six months ahead of operation.
“The worst case would be that connectivity is not maintained between the UK and EU due to the disappearance of traffic rights. Traffic rights are a key issue,” de Juniac said during a media briefing in Geneva in early December. “It would be a disaster for UK-based carriers because they would not be allowed to land in Europe. I don’t think it will happen, but it is a risk.”
A risk, indeed. What one senior industry executive described to ATW as “the doomsday scenario” is turning from the unthinkable to the possible. And while UK Prime Minister Theresa May’s announcement of a broad Brexit deal reached with the EC in December offers some reassurance, the really tough free trade negotiations have yet to begin and there is so far little indication that aviation is being prioritized or that the need for urgency is understood.
There is precedent in aeropolitics for operations to continue in the absence of a formal legal arrangement, such as when bilaterals or confidential MoUs expire without agreement about future capacity. What generally happens, the industry executive said, is that air services are frozen at the level they were at before the expiry or cancellation.
But the EU aviation system is completely liberal, so bridging arrangements would pose difficult questions, such as at what level should operations be frozen?
And aviation Open Skies agreements typically take years to accomplish. How will the UK speed through that process in months when it also has to negotiate trade rights for every other industry? There is also the question of what new terms non-UK governments, especially France and Germany, will seek in the new aviation agreements, such as giving UK airlines less access to their markets.
The EU’s Open Skies framework is credited with stimulating Europe’s air traffic growth, especially in the LCC sector. British carriers need access to that market; and the UK is a major market for many European airlines. But they head into 2018 with little-to-nothing accomplished to secure that access.

http://atwonline.com/blog/time-fast-running-out-prevent-brexit-aviation-crisis
 

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Purtroppo realismo e Brexit si stanno rivelando in contraddizione perenne. Sperem!
 

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Sta a vedere che alla fine la vendita degli slot a Heathrow da parte di Alitalia si rivela un affare! :D :D :D
 

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Analisi anna.aero su quali saranno le dinamiche degli aeroporti UK in caso di 'hard Brexit'.


UK airports and ‘hard Brexit’ – Stansted and Liverpool most exposed

Following our recent article following Ryanair’s application for a UK AOC, anna.aero decided to take a look at which of the UK’s main airports could suffer the largest impact to their networks if the UK were to lose its access to the European Single Aviation Market. The airports currently at risk of losing the most traffic are those with a heavy reliance on non-UK owned LCCs such as Ryanair or Wizz Air. This would put airports like London Stansted, Liverpool, East Midlands and London Luton in the firing line, since they have the highest dependence on EU services as a proportion of their total capacity, with significant seat numbers operated by non-UK based LCCs. Stansted and Liverpool also have among the highest proportion of domestic seats served by non-UK airlines. The detail of where the UK currently is, and where it may end up, with regards to the Single Aviation Market is explained after the following graphs. For those of you that need some light revision, the ‘Freedoms of the Air’ are also explained in full at the end.

EU traffic more important to some UK airports than others

The graph below shows the top 20 largest airports in the UK based on weekly departing seats in S17. The airports are listed in descending order, according to their available capacity. Unsurprisingly, London Heathrow topped the list with 982,717 seats, while Cardiff was the smallest airport with 23,565 seats. There was considerable variation between airports in terms of the importance of EU services as a percentage of overall capacity, when domestic and other international destinations are also included. At seven airports, seats to EU destinations accounted for 80% or more of their total capacity. These were East Midlands (90%), Leeds Bradford (87%), London Stansted (86%), London Luton (83%), Liverpool (81%), Bristol (80%) and Cardiff (80%).


Source: OAG Schedules Analyser. Data is for week commencing 1 August 2017.

Not all of the UK’s leading airports were as dependent on EU services during S17. At seven facilities, EU links accounted for less than half of departing weekly seats. These included Jersey, which saw only 4% of its available capacity depart to EU destinations, followed by Belfast City with 12%, Aberdeen (28%), Heathrow (35%), Belfast International (43%), Southampton (43%), and Glasgow (47%). At most of these seven airports, EU services play second fiddle to domestic links. The exception is Heathrow, where EU and domestic connections are both overshadowed by capacity to other international destinations. The UK’s primary long-haul gateway saw 59% of all seats departing on non-EU international links during the week under analysis.

Stansted, Liverpool, East Midlands and Luton most exposed for EU flights

When each of the top 20 airports’ EU connections are considered by operator, it is possible to identify their potential exposure to a Brexit backlash by highlighting the percentage of seats that could be lost if seventh freedom rights were not maintained. Belfast City would be the most at risk, with 98% of its weekly departing seats to the EU in S17 operated under seventh freedoms. However, since these EU services only amount to a small portion of the airport’s total network, the overall impact of losing these flights might not be felt as keenly as elsewhere. The airports that may be most in the firing line are Stansted, Liverpool, East Midlands and Luton, since these four facilities also witnessed some of highest proportions of seats operated under seventh freedoms to EU destinations in S17. In addition, we have already identified that these four airports each depend on EU links for a high proportion of their overall capacity. Stansted saw 73% of departing weekly seats to EU destinations operated under seventh freedom rights in S17, followed by Liverpool (48%), East Midlands (47%), and Luton (40%). A common theme running through all four airports is that they see significant operations from non-UK LCCs or ULCCs. Stansted is Ryanair’s biggest network base, with the Irish carrier accounting for the vast majority of seventh freedom flights from the airport in S17. Ryanair also serves East Midlands, Liverpool and Luton, with the latter two also playing host to non-UK Wizz Air and Blue Air operations.


Source: OAG Schedules Analyser. Data is for week commencing 1 August 2017.

The other three airports at which EU destinations account for 80% or more of departing capacity are less reliant on seventh freedom services, with 26% of EU-bound seats from Bristol and Leeds Bradford and only 3% from Cardiff, operated under those rights. In total, five airports saw 11% or less of their EU-bound flights operated under seventh freedom rights, with both Heathrow and Southampton witnessing none at all during the week under analysis, making them the least exposed to potential post-Brexit scenarios. At Heathrow this was due to many flights to EU destinations being operated by full-service flag carriers, under more traditional third and fourth freedom rights. At Southampton, Flybe is by far the dominant carrier, accounting for 85% of all services to EU destinations in S17. Since the airline is UK-based, it will operate these flights under third and fourth freedoms.

Stansted would see biggest domestic decline

The table below shows the 20 largest airports in the UK, but this time in descending order according to their departing weekly domestic capacity in S17. Edinburgh offered the most domestic seats, with 65,627 available, compared to 4,230 at Cardiff. Ninth freedom rights are used less extensively than seventh freedoms, with only 8% of the domestic seats available from the top 20 airports being flown by non-UK airlines in S17. The airport that would be most exposed in the event of the removal of ninth freedom rights on domestic services would be Stansted, since 38% of its weekly departing domestic seats in S17 were operated by Ryanair, as the Irish carrier linked London’s third airport to Edinburgh and Glasgow. As a percentage of overall capacity the next most-exposed airport would be Liverpool, since its Flybe-branded links to the Isle of Man are operated by Irish-registered Stobart Air. Ten of the top 20 airports saw no domestic services operated under ninth freedom rights.


Source: OAG Schedules Analyser. Data is for week commencing 1 August 2017.

RABA on smaller regional airports impact


Other UK airports outside of the top 20 tend to be very reliant on one, or sometimes two operators. Their potential exposure to the worst-case Brexit scenario will therefore depend on whether those carriers rely on seventh and/or ninth freedom rights to provide their services. At Exeter for example, Flybe is the dominant carrier and this contributes to the airport seeing no seventh or ninth freedom services in the week under analysis. In contrast, the schedules at Glasgow Prestwick and Bournemouth are dominated by Ryanair, leaving those facilities far more exposed. All of Prestwick’s seats were flown on seventh freedom services operated by Ryanair, while the Irish carrier also accounted for 74% of Bournemouth’s departing seats to EU destinations.
The 40-strong UK Regional and Business Airports Group (RABA) consequently has a clear interest in the outcome of the eventual Brexit deal. “The UK was at the forefront when the EU’s Single Aviation Market was created, and we managed to convince some instinctively protectionist countries to follow this lead. Many UK regions have not looked back since,” says Neil Pakey, a former air transport negotiator for the European Commission, ex-boss of Liverpool and Shannon airports, and current Chairman of RABA. “When we hear the term ‘hard Brexit’, we know in the aviation context this could lead to one current agreement being replaced in effect by 44 agreements, including an estimated 17 we agreed with other nations as part of the EU. Countries like Ireland, Netherlands and Spain would happily subscribe to continued open skies, but others may see it as an opportunity to protect their national carriers from competition, reducing access to and from their own regional airports, resulting once again in higher air fares. Picking up old bilateral agreements and dusting them down may be a starting point, but most are much more restrictive.
“Many UK regional airports, depend on seventh freedom and ninth freedom traffic,” continues Pakey. “If we don’t manage to stay in the Single Aviation Market, we will be reliant on the bilateral negotiations between the UK and the other member states to deliver these. That is difficult enough at the best of times, without trying to deliver 44 agreements all at once. We encourage all airlines operating to UK regions to communicate with the UK Civil Aviation Authority [CAA] to consider obtaining a UK Air Operator Certificate [AOC] in case of a ‘hard Brexit’ and at least then they will be considered as a third and fourth freedom carrier, which will help. We also support the Department of Transport in its efforts to prepare the ground and hope that we somehow avoid the ‘hard Brexit – no EU agreement’ scenario for aviation.”

Afraid to ask? 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th freedoms explained

Although the UK is likely to remain a part of the EU’s Single Aviation Market through a transition agreement until end-2020, there are still many uncertainties about what will happen to its membership of the Single Aviation Market. Everything depends on whether the UK transitions to a membership of the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA), a regime designed to extend the Single Aviation Market to include non-EU countries like Iceland and Albania, or whether a far more complex series of bilateral air services agreements between the UK and the EU are implemented, with many confining disadvantages for leading airlines and many UK airports.
An integral part of any deal is an understanding of some of the old-fashioned ‘Freedoms of the Air’ which govern international traffic rights but which have not been used in most of Europe for almost 30 years and would have to be used again to construct a new, unique UK-ECAA agreement:

  • Third freedom rights – the right to fly from one’s home country to a foreign state;
  • Fourth freedom rights – the right to fly from a foreign state back to one’s home country;
  • Fifth freedom rights – the right to operate between two domestic points outside of one’s home market, provided the full itinerary includes a link to one’s home country;
  • Seventh freedom rights – the right to fly between two foreign countries while not offering flights to one’s own country;
  • Ninth freedom rights – the right to fly within a foreign country without continuing to one’s own country.
The EU Single Aviation Market means that all EU airlines can utilise any of these freedoms. But while it seems conventional for the UK to maintain third and fourth freedoms between it and other ECAA states after the expected transition to end-2020, if seventh and ninth freedom rights are not maintained, non-UK operators will no longer automatically be able to operate UK domestic services, or links between the UK and ECAA destinations outside of their home countries after 2020.
This analysis above looked at which of the UK’s top 20 airports could be most exposed if seventh and ninth freedom capacity is lost. None of the routes identified in this analysis would be covered by fifth freedom rights, so they were not considered. The review is not comprehensive, but gives a strong indicator of which airports could be most affected by a “hardish” Brexit in aviation. It is based on a number of assumptions. Firstly, the analysis of which airlines are operating under which freedom rights only looks at UK domestic services and services to the other 27 EU member states. Services to other qualifying states in the ECAA would also be affected. The schedule data used only covers one week from peak S17; the week commencing 1 August. The analysis is meant to provide a moment in time snapshot and does not account for the countless variables that could develop between now and the UK’s formal exit from the EU, including any subsequent or potential UK AOC applications made by non-UK operators.

The specific freedom rights were identified according to the home country of the operating airline where possible. Flights performed by third-party carriers on behalf of leisure operators were allocated to the leisure airline rather than the wet- or dry-lease provider. However, flights performed by franchisees or ‘white-label’ operators were allocated to the specific operating entity, since these arrangements tend to be longer-term in nature and may need some adjustments if seventh or ninth freedom rights are removed.
Another assumption was to use both Denmark and Sweden as the home market for SAS. It should be noted that as its third home market of Norway is not in the EU it was not necessary to account for this when allocating freedom rights by operating airline in this analysis. Jersey is included because services between the island and the UK are considered domestic, despite the fact that Jersey is a self-governing crown dependency. The Channel Island currently operates an open skies policy with countries in Europe, but this is independent of arrangements between the UK and EU, and it remains to be seen whether it will be impacted in the aftermath of Brexit. It should be noted that routes to and from Gibraltar have not been considered.

Remember this…it might never happen

This analysis is an effective way to highlight the potential vulnerability of some UK airports, if the British government does not find a way to maintain Single Aviation Market access, but the reality is unlikely to be as bleak as the picture painted here. Both Ryanair and Wizz Air have already taken steps to gain UK AOCs which would allow them to operate British-registered aircraft under third of fourth freedom rights. It is also not beyond the realms of possibility that the respective officials in the UK and the other 27 member states of the EU could come to an understanding that allows the status quo to prevail.

http://www.anna.aero/2018/02/07/bre...orts-lose-out-in-the-wake-of-the-uks-eu-exit/
 

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Ryanair inserira' una clausola ai T&C's sui voli che mettera' in vendita per la S19: (perdonate la traduzione maccheronica) "volo soggetto ad un contesto normativo che consentira' questo volo"

Ryanair ready for ‘worst-case’ scenario with Brexit clause

Ryanair is to insert a new clause into its terms and conditions to cover the possibility of flights having to be cancelled because of Brexit.
The budget airline confirmed that it was planning to add the clause to all bookings for UK flights from April 1, 2019, after the UK is currently scheduled to leave the EU.
Kenny Jacobs, Ryanair’s chief marketing officer, said the new condition would apply when the summer 2019 schedule is released later this year, but will not be included for flights in the winter 2018-19 programme.

“In that summer schedule there will be a term and condition saying ‘subject to a regulatory environment allowing this flight to take place’,” he added.
“There is not a regulatory solution yet to replace open skies. That’s why we have applied for a UK AOC (Air Operator Certificate) to make sure we can fly domestic routes in the UK if needed.
“The UK is the biggest country in the Ryanair network but if we get to the worst-case scenario and we can’t fly, then we will be looking at ultimately moving aircraft out of the UK into other European bases.”

If any flights end up being cancelled due to Brexit in 2019, Ryanair customers will receive a full refund.
Jacobs said that such a “guillotine” situation in April 2019 was looking less likely, with the UK hoping to secure a transitional deal for up to two years, which would allow the current flight arrangements to continue.

“They will find a solution but it will just take a bit longer,” he added.
“I suspect they will work it out at some point during the transition period.”

Jacobs added that Brexit had “not affected bookings” so far, and added: “Brits will continue going to Europe and Europeans will keep coming to Britain – that’s not going to change.”

Ryanair has spent the past few months dealing with the aftermath of its pilot rostering crisis over the current winter season, which has caused the cancellation of 20,000 flights.

“We have been focusing on what we need to fix,” said Jacobs. “We’ve been dealing with the fallout from the rostering – making sure we deal with rebooking, refunds and rerouting. We have also been recognising unions and increasing pay for pilots.
“Now it’s back to business as usual. We are getting back to what our customers want – low fares and really good punctuality.”

Ryanair has ambitious growth plans and is aiming to increase passenger numbers from last year’s total of 129 million to more than 200 million by 2024.

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In pratica i voli della summer 2019 saranno venduti sub judice e passibili di essere cancellati nel caso non si trovasse un accordo per la Brexit.
 

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Durante l'AGM di ieri, easyJet ha ufficialmente deciso di approvare le modifiche allo statuto dell'azienda assicurando che la compagnia sara' di proprieta', e controlllata, da azionisti Europei dopo Brexit. Quindi dall'anno prossimo U2 a tutti gli effetti non sara' piu' una compagnia britannica.

On Thursday, shareholders at easyJet’s annual general meeting approved changes to its articles of association that will ensure the airline is EU-owned and controlled after Brexit.
The move means it has the power to force UK shareholders to divest their shares if the airline needed to.
John Barton, chairman of easyJet, noted that “Brexit is one of the biggest issues facing the European airline industry”.
He said that while the airline has no “immediate intention” of using these powers, they were an “important element in ensuring that easyJet plc has the ability to maintain EU ownership and control at all times should we need to do so”.
https://www.ft.com/content/7c6796e8...9e233c8#myft:notification:daily-email:content
 

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Anche FR sulla stessa lunghezza d'onda di U2 (post sopra)

Ryanair 'may force British shareholders to sell' to avoid Brexit ban

Ryanair may force British shareholders to sell their stock in the airline to avoid it being grounded after Brexit, chief executive Michael O’Leary has said.

O’Leary believes his flights could be grounded from April 1 next year when the UK quits the European Union, at least for a short period, unless a deal is struck.

Under EU rules, Ryanair must show regulators that the majority of investors at the Irish airline are EU citizens. The Sunday Timessays that 56% of shareholders are European, but that 20% are from the UK.

O’Leary told the newspaper he was examining ways of giving incentives to non-EU investors to persuade them to dump shares, but has said that he will force a sale if necessary. Ryanair has also applied for a British air operating certificate in order to continue operating domestic UK flights.

Transport secretary Chris Grayling has said he is sure there will be no problem next spring, but has yet to strike a deal with the EU to avoid any potential disruption.
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UK-US Open Skies talks hit Brexit turbulence

Negotiations cut short after Washington offers worse package than EU

Katrina Manson in Washington, Alex Barker in Brussels and Tanya Powley in London


The US is offering Britain a worse “Open Skies” deal after Brexit than it had as an EU member, in a negotiating stance that would badly hit the transatlantic operating rights of British Airways and Virgin Atlantic.

British and American negotiators secretly met in January for the first formal talks on a new air services deal, aiming to fill the gap created when Britain falls out of the EU-US open skies treaty after Brexit, according to people familiar with talks.

The talks were cut short after US negotiators offered only a standard bilateral agreement. These typically require airlines to be majority owned and controlled by parties from their country of origin. Such limits would be problematic for British carriers as they have large foreign shareholdings. Under existing arrangements, UK-based airlines are covered by the “Open Skies” treaty that requires them to be majority EU owned.

One person attending the London meetings to “put Humpty Dumpty back together” said: “You can’t just scratch out ‘EU’ and put in ‘UK’.” A British official said it showed “the squeeze” London will face as it tries to reconstruct its international agreements after Brexit, even with close allies such as Washington. Negotiators are confident of an eventual agreement to keep open the busy UK-US routes, which account for more than a third of current transatlantic flight traffic. But there are legal and political obstacles that could impede the two sides from reaching a deal in time to give legal certainty to airlines booking flights a year in advance. “We have every confidence that the US and UK will sign a deal that is in everyone’s interests and that IAG will comply with the EU and UK ownership and control regulations post Brexit,” said International Airlines Group, which owns British Airways. Virgin Atlantic said it remained “assured that a new liberal agreement will be reached, allowing us to keep flying to all of our destinations in North America”.

Chris Grayling, UK transport secretary, declared in October that he was making “rapid progress” in reaching ambitious new airline agreements with the US and other international partners. According to FT estimates, the UK must renegotiate and replace about 65 international transport agreements after Brexit. In its opening stance the US side rolled back valuable elements of the US-EU agreement, the most liberal open skies deal ever agreed by Washington.

Its post-Brexit offer to the UK did not include membership of a joint committee on regulatory co-operation or special access to the Fly America programme, which allocates tickets for US government employees. Washington also asked for improved flying rights for US courier services such as FedEx. The Americans will play it hard.

The UK has also yet to formally offer the US access to overseas territories such as the British Virgin Islands and Cayman Islands, which were not included as part of the original US-EU deal, according to people familiar with the talks.

There are also potential issues over the continuation of antitrust exemptions, permitted by the US-EU open skies agreement, which allow airline alliances to set fares and share revenue, according to people familiar with talks. The biggest sticking-point is a standard ownership clause in Washington’s bilateral aviation agreements that would exclude airlines from the deal if “substantial ownership and effective control” does not rest with US or UK nationals respectively. In effect it requires majority ownership by one of the two sides if an airline is to benefit.

London asked the US to adjust its long-held policy since it would exclude the three main British-based transatlantic carriers, which all fall short of the eligibility criteria. These are IAG, the owner of British Airways and Iberia; Virgin Atlantic; and Norwegian UK. Sir Richard Branson owns 51 per cent of Virgin, making it majority UK-owned. But he is in the process of selling 31 per cent to Air France-KLM, which could complicate Virgin’s access rights to the US. US airline Delta owns the remaining stake.

The challenge is most acute for Willie Walsh, IAG chief executive, whose group must also clear the EU’s 50 per cent ownership threshold to avoid losing his European operating rights after Brexit, when UK nationals are no longer counted. One senior EU official said the airline operator was heading for “a crunch”. “From the US point of view, there is not a single big airline that is UK-owned and controlled,” he said. “The Americans will play it hard. The mood has changed [against liberalisation], it’s the worst time to be negotiating.”

Andrew Charlton, an aviation consultant, said the negotiations with the US were likely to be “fraught with difficulties”. “The EU has been arguing for a change to the ownership and control rule for decades but the US has never said yes. It’s been a sticking point forever. If the US has never bent before then why would they do it just for the UK?” he said, adding that such a change could set a big precedent.British negotiators are hopeful the ownership issues can be addressed through a side agreement or memorandum of understanding giving airlines solid legal rights. But so far the US side has not gone beyond offering temporary “waivers”, on a case-by-case basis to airlines.

The UK’s EU membership also prevents the country from signing trade or aviation services agreements before the end of March 2019 when Britain is due to leave the bloc. The EU’s Brexit negotiators are insisting it seek permission for deals during any transition period. British negotiators are hoping to convince partners such as the US to treat them as EU members during the transition period, so they do not automatically fall out of agreements during that period. A senior UK government source said it was “nonsense to suggest that planes won’t fly between UK and US post-Brexit. Both sides have a strong interest in reaching an agreement and are very close to one.”The US also played down fears of a looming crisis.“Our shared aim with the United Kingdom is to ensure the smoothest possible transition in the transatlantic market,” said the state department. “Commercial aviation is key to the dynamic economic relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom. Discussions are going well and, while specific dates are not set, we plan to meet again soon.”
https://www.ft.com/content/9461157c-1f97-11e8-9efc-0cd3483b8b80
 

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L'ironia e' che VS e' di proprieta' delta al 49%, e sarebbe comunque bloccata in questi accordi dopo la vendita del 31% a AF/KLM.
 

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Negotiations cut short after Washington offers worse package than EU
Si pensavano che gli USA avrebbero steso i tappeti rossi, inchinandosi dinanzi alla grandezza dell'Impero Britannico finalmente libero dalle catene dei colonizzatori Europei.

Poi si sono svegliati tutti sudati.
 

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Oggi sull'FT articolo con Willie che usa toni da Daily Torygraph, o Daily Heil.

IAG chief dismisses Brexit ownership concerns

The chief executive of British Airways parent International Airlines Group has denied the company will face any ownership issues as a result of Brexit, while dismissing as “nonsense” the spectre of a disruption to transatlantic flights.
Willie Walsh said there would be no impact on the airline from Brexit since the UK government would manage to agree an open skies deal with the EU and renegotiate a bilateral aviation pact with the US.
His remarks came in response to a Financial Times report that the airline was facing a crunch due to EU ownership rules which state European airlines must be controlled by European citizens after Brexit.
IAG is facing a battle to clear the EU’s 50 per cent ownership threshold to avoid losing its European operating rights after Brexit, when UK nationals are no longer counted.
“We are flying today in countries that do not even recognise this issue of ownership,” he said. “The FT writes there will be no flights between the US and UK, it’s complete and utter nonsense.”
“There will be a comprehensive open skies agreement,” he added. “Anybody who doesn’t believe that is living in cloud cuckoo land. It is absolute madness. The UK government is determined to reach an agreement with the US and with the EU. That is what will happen”.
When asked how IAG was planning to persuade regulators it did not fall foul of the ownership rules, Mr Walsh said: “magic”.
Mr Walsh also took a swipe at the FT over Monday’s story, saying that “I wouldn’t believe anything that’s written in the FT.”
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Michael O'Leary scatenato.


Ryanair's Michael O'Leary threatens to ground planes after Brexit to make voters 'rethink' withdrawal

Ryanair is threatening to ground its planes after the UK withdraws from the European Union to persuade voters to "rethink" Brexit.
The Dublin-based carrier's chief executive Michael O'Leary said he wants to "create an opportunity" by making people realise they are "no longer going to have cheap holidays".
He told an audience of airline leaders in Brussels: "I think it's in our interests - not for a long period of time - that the aircraft are grounded.
"It's only when you get to that stage where you're going to persuade the average British voter that you were lied to in the entire Brexit debate.
"You were promised you could leave the EU and everything would stay the same. The reality is you can leave the EU, yes that's your choice, but everything will fundamentally change."
Mr O'Leary warned that there would be a "real crisis" as flights between the UK and the EU are disrupted after Brexit.
He said: "When you begin to realise that you're no longer going to have cheap holidays in Portugal or Spain or Italy, you've got to drive to Scotland or get a ferry to Ireland as your only holiday options, maybe we'll begin to rethink the whole Brexit debate.

"They were misled and I think we have to create an opportunity."
EasyJet chief executive Johan Lundgren, who was on stage alongside Mr O'Leary, interrupted him to say: "If you start grounding your planes, I'm flying."
Carsten Spohr, the boss of German carrier Lufthansa, added: "In theory, if we could use this industry to prove to the British how wrong the decision was, that might be a good thing."
The single market for aviation, created in the 1990s, means there are no commercial restrictions for airlines flying within the EU.
Mr O'Leary has repeatedly warned that airlines will be forced to cancel post-Brexit services from March 2019 if no agreement is reached in the Brexit negotiations by September, because schedules are planned about six months in advance.
Transport Secretary Chris Grayling said in January that he is confident flights will not be grounded because "it's in the interests of everyone" to maintain the open market for aviation.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...l-oleary-threatens-ground-planes-brexit-make/